in need of sports chrono
12-14-2010, 07:52 PM
#16
My .02 cents worth. I have a 2010 Cayman with PDK and Sports Chrono that I autocross and track. In normal the car is very docile in sport, on the street with PASM either off or on the cat has spirit and shifts are quick and precise. For autocross and tracking I turn on sport plus and PASM and the car handles as if on a rail with shifting at redline and down shifts never allowing the RPMs to drop below 4000. I like it so much I retro fitted my '09 C2S (with PDK) with sport plus and added a new dimension to this great car. Bottom line with the six speed Sport Chrono is nice, with PDK it is a must.
12-14-2010, 08:10 PM
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Actually, HT is harder with SC and everyone at the track (Watkins Glen, Lime Rock, and Monticello where I run) tried SC and never pressed the button again. We're talking about maybe 1mm of pedal travel of difference, meaning about the width of this -- l -- character. Also, SC mapping is jumpy and not as smooth / linear as even normal. Again, those that have tried it (and I mean very experienced drivers, not a Green student who just got a new car) never pressed it again. If you are on the track, which is the only place to HT, there isn't a problem whatsoever. You have to constantly adapt as the pads wear down your HT foot position has to change anyway.
Regarding Softronic, primary bypass, etc. Try a search and you'll find lots of threads on the subject. And what you won't find is even 1 example of where factory or aftermarket "sport" related software / exhaust have caused a problem over the 30 or so years the market has been making them. I have to believe that Porsche is happy to sell you a "sport" mapping or "sport" exhaust because they know it's not going to harm the engine or car.
Regarding Softronic, primary bypass, etc. Try a search and you'll find lots of threads on the subject. And what you won't find is even 1 example of where factory or aftermarket "sport" related software / exhaust have caused a problem over the 30 or so years the market has been making them. I have to believe that Porsche is happy to sell you a "sport" mapping or "sport" exhaust because they know it's not going to harm the engine or car.
+1 I think h-t is more difficult WITH sport mode.
12-14-2010, 08:52 PM
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Heel-toe with the sport throttle map appears to be a mixed bag. Personally I don't find it noticeably harder or easier either way although it makes sense to me that it could have that effect for some people.
I don't like the sport throttle mapping because it is an impediment to control and finesse from your right foot. It's more difficult to be smooth -- it's more difficult to roll on the throttle coming out of a corner -- it's more difficult to be fast. I don't see the appeal -- the sport throttle mapping is actually taking away from your ability to control the car with no corresponding upside.
I don't like the sport throttle mapping because it is an impediment to control and finesse from your right foot. It's more difficult to be smooth -- it's more difficult to roll on the throttle coming out of a corner -- it's more difficult to be fast. I don't see the appeal -- the sport throttle mapping is actually taking away from your ability to control the car with no corresponding upside.
12-14-2010, 09:15 PM
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I don't like the sport throttle mapping because it is an impediment to control and finesse from your right foot. It's more difficult to be smooth -- it's more difficult to roll on the throttle coming out of a corner -- it's more difficult to be fast. I don't see the appeal -- the sport throttle mapping is actually taking away from your ability to control the car with no corresponding upside.
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My .02 cents worth. I have a 2010 Cayman with PDK and Sports Chrono that I autocross and track. In normal the car is very docile in sport, on the street with PASM either off or on the cat has spirit and shifts are quick and precise. For autocross and tracking I turn on sport plus and PASM and the car handles as if on a rail with shifting at redline and down shifts never allowing the RPMs to drop below 4000. I like it so much I retro fitted my '09 C2S (with PDK) with sport plus and added a new dimension to this great car. Bottom line with the six speed Sport Chrono is nice, with PDK it is a must.
Thanks
10-28-2011, 01:13 AM
#22
As nobody was interested in a PDK without SC I picked up my 2009 Porsche sans SC at a considerable discount. i had intended to ad the sports mode after purchse but after driving my Porsche for 1500 miles I am not in any hurry. this forum actually came up as a reason for the terrible resale price (dealer's opinion) . IMO all those 2009 buyers who bought without SC that bought early are trading in quickly. Quite a few 2009's on the market PDK without SC. this forum discouraged me to buy until the suncoast info about Porsche sports mode came up. i dont think used car dealers like you guys! :-)
10-29-2011, 02:13 AM
#24
i will buy everyone a beer at each occurence since on lookers add over 10k to my purchaase price. if their are investors that are on the move this is the way to go. I intend to keep my dream car for a long time. Quite a few blue metallic 109k's out there w/o s/c that were an early launch that you can grab b4 the porsche sports retrofit becomes common knowlege... goood knight
