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Old 12-20-2010, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FI Flyer
My C4S is the best touring car that I have ever had and I love to use it for trips but I am hesitant because of the risk of a flat tire. I fear breaking down in an isolated area without cell coverage and, almost as worrying, I worry about getting a replacement wheel and tire(s) in a reasonable time frame.

I have driven across the USA (and back) in an Audi Allroad and a Cayman S. I've had two flats but fortunately, they were both in relatively accessible areas. Even so, each incident cost me a lost day or two. Unlike some here, I am not competent to plug tires myself.

I am headed to Vermont over Christmas. One of my previous flats was in Maine. Being stuck with everything closed and the temperature well below zero is worrying. Probably nothing will happen but it seems to me that a car as competent as a Porsche should not burden its owners with uncertainty about the wisdom of driving it in the way for which it is intended.

How much should I worry? Are there any precautions that I should take? And is driving cross-country a bad idea?
The precautions you should take are plan as if you will have a flat and know what you are going to do. Even then, it might not be so fun.

1 - Have all your RA / tow service phone numbers handy.
2 - Cell phone charged - spare battery not a bad idea.
3 - Pen and Paper on board.
4 - Plan your route and pre-determince locations of Porsche Dealers and other suitable tire service centers than would have your tire and could do the work correctly. Have a list with phone numbers.
5 - Have plenty of water along in case you get stuck and have to sit a while.
6 - Have some cash on hand.
7 - Have a flash light.
8 - Avoid traveling at night/friday afternoon/weekends if you can.

BTW, if a tire can be plugged, it is not so hard to do it - well worth a try and you will have plenty of time to give it a shot while you wait for any other solution to come together. If it works great, if not - you're no worse off.
Old 12-22-2010, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by stevepow
The precautions you should take are plan as if you will have a flat and know what you are going to do. Even then, it might not be so fun.

1 - Have all your RA / tow service phone numbers handy.
2 - Cell phone charged - spare battery not a bad idea.
3 - Pen and Paper on board.
4 - Plan your route and pre-determince locations of Porsche Dealers and other suitable tire service centers than would have your tire and could do the work correctly. Have a list with phone numbers.
5 - Have plenty of water along in case you get stuck and have to sit a while.
6 - Have some cash on hand.
7 - Have a flash light.
8 - Avoid traveling at night/friday afternoon/weekends if you can.

BTW, if a tire can be plugged, it is not so hard to do it - well worth a try and you will have plenty of time to give it a shot while you wait for any other solution to come together. If it works great, if not - you're no worse off.

I have my wife follow me with a flatbed that I just purchased
Old 12-23-2010, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by stevepow
The precautions you should take are plan as if you will have a flat and know what you are going to do. Even then, it might not be so fun.

1 - Have all your RA / tow service phone numbers handy.
2 - Cell phone charged - spare battery not a bad idea.
3 - Pen and Paper on board.
4 - Plan your route and pre-determince locations of Porsche Dealers and other suitable tire service centers than would have your tire and could do the work correctly. Have a list with phone numbers.
5 - Have plenty of water along in case you get stuck and have to sit a while.
6 - Have some cash on hand.
7 - Have a flash light.
8 - Avoid traveling at night/friday afternoon/weekends if you can.:-)
BTW, if a tire can be plugged, it is not so hard to do it - well worth a try and you will have plenty of time to give it a shot while you wait for any other solution to come together. If it works great, if not - you're no worse off.
Number 4 and 8 would really suck on a weekend drive. I think I'll leave it in the garage
Old 12-23-2010, 04:03 PM
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Does anyone have a picture of the European spare? Why couldn't we go online and buy one from a CPO?
Old 12-23-2010, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jasvoboda
Does anyone have a picture of the European spare? Why couldn't we go online and buy one from a CPO?
Suncoast has put together the factory parts as a kit:

http://www.suncoastparts.com/product...y_Code=9972int

Those guys are truly a service to Porsche owners.

Optionally that tire can also be placed in the frunk, but it doesn't mount to anything. For frunk storage, a Das Schild frunk hood liner is probably a good precautiom - in fact Das Schild seems like a good idea to me regardless of the spare.
Old 12-23-2010, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul S.
I don't think you'll ever see Porsche re-introduce a spare tire in the 911's and other sports cars. That's the price for ever increasing rim sizes that won't fit in the front trunk if you have a flat.
Agreed it will probably never be standard, but they could at least offer a tequipment kit. And preferably one for the frunk, not for the back seat.

And I for one was happy with the 996 set up--I am not a big fan of 19" wheels. The 18" hollow spokes on my 996 Turbo that had an inflatable spare in the floor of the trunk were great.
The 19" rims are such a huge mistake I could rant about it all day. Worse ride, worse performance, harder to build good suspensions, more expensive, rarer tires, harder to mount, no spare. Sigh.
Old 12-23-2010, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JW911
Sounds crazy but in an emergency it may well be very possible.
If its a life or death emergency - as in I die if I stop to fix my flat... the maybe.

But otherwise, no way would I drive on the flat and sacrifice the rim. Because it doesn't stop there.

Beyond the fact that any handling is shot and you are crawling along (you must assume its a rear driving wheel that has gone out)... the tire will break up as will the rim and begin to destroy the body of the car in the process.

The $1000 fine Porsche makes us pay to Suncoast (kit here )(kuodos to them for assembling the kit) is preferable to any other option unless I see its just a nail hole and the goop will work in it.

Its not really a European spare. The Autobahn is clean and clear.. you won't find the amount of debris and chunks of stuff on German highways that you encounter on the vastly larger US highway network. Its a price we pay for having the wide open space and lower taxes.
Old 12-23-2010, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by stevepow

1 - Have all your RA / tow service phone numbers handy.
2 - Cell phone charged - spare battery not a bad idea.
3 - Pen and Paper on board.
4 - Plan your route and pre-determince locations of Porsche Dealers and other suitable tire service centers than would have your tire and could do the work correctly. Have a list with phone numbers.
5 - Have plenty of water along in case you get stuck and have to sit a while.
6 - Have some cash on hand.
7 - Have a flash light.
8 - Avoid traveling at night/friday afternoon/weekends if you can.
This is why I bought the Boxster preinflated tire kit. I don't want to be worried and stranded for a day. AAA premium is on board as well.
Old 12-24-2010, 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ecostellodo
This is why I bought the Boxster preinflated tire kit. I don't want to be worried and stranded for a day. AAA premium is on board as well.
Exactly. All this can be mitigated with a spare. It still will be a drag ridding on the spare, but not nearly so much of one.
Old 12-24-2010, 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Minok

Its not really a European spare. The Autobahn is clean and clear.. you won't find the amount of debris and chunks of stuff on German highways that you encounter on the vastly larger US highway network. Its a price we pay for having the wide open space and lower taxes.
No it's a price we taxpayers pay for both State and Federal graft, greed and mismanagement. And I'm not paying any higher taxes so they can waste more of it. Some states have privatized their roads and guess what... they are by and large the best in the country.

CA roadways used to be a model for the nation 30 years ago. Today they are abyssmal. And we are being taxed and "fee'd" up the wazoo.

Tennessee went to privatizing theirs and they are incredible both in repair, condition and cleanliness- compared to what the Golden State has today. (A bunch of goat trails and trash all over.)
Old 12-24-2010, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by FI Flyer
How much should I worry? Are there any precautions that I should take? And is driving cross-country a bad idea?
My wife and I drove cross-country to Monterey in summer 2009. She had the same hesitation about a flat, getting stuck, etc. We had zero problems driving in all conditions (day, night, clear, rain, etc.). One thing to certainly do is to stay on major highways in less populated areas. You'll always have cell coverage and at a minimum, plenty of passersby. The other thing I haven't seen mentioned here is diligence in watching the road. I am always scanning in 3 modes - near, middle, far - near to check for potholes, debris; middle - 2-3 seconds ahead to see what traffic is doing; far - 6-7 seconds ahead for police, accidents, etc.
Old 12-24-2010, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BlinkGone
No it's a price we taxpayers pay for both State and Federal graft, greed and mismanagement. And I'm not paying any higher taxes so they can waste more of it. Some states have privatized their roads and guess what... they are by and large the best in the country.

CA roadways used to be a model for the nation 30 years ago. Today they are abyssmal. And we are being taxed and "fee'd" up the wazoo.

Tennessee went to privatizing theirs and they are incredible both in repair, condition and cleanliness- compared to what the Golden State has today. (A bunch of goat trails and trash all over.)
You realize that Germany is only the size of New Mexico yet you want to compare the amount of roads in the USA to Germany?
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I ordered the Suncoast setup for Christmas. Won't be here until next week but that will be in plenty of time for my Sugar Bowl road trip.

GO HOGS!
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Originally Posted by sclemmons
I ordered the Suncoast setup for Christmas. Won't be here until next week but that will be in plenty of time for my Sugar Bowl road trip.

be sure and take some pics of the Suncoast setup for the rest of us.
Old 12-26-2010, 02:29 PM
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Guys, shop this darn thing around... I paid under $300. for the same setup you're willing to pay 1K$ for.
The tire, tools, cover, etc. and it was new..... No reason to pay three times the money for the same thing.

Suncoast is a great resource and I love em' but......


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