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View Poll Results: On a cold start, how warm is the engine/oil before punching it?
Punch it before engine reaches 175
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5.08%
Engine temp at 175, free to go!
31
17.51%
Wait till oil gauge is moving up between 150-200
58
32.77%
Oil at about 200
62
35.03%
Oil 200+
17
9.60%
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Cold start to spirited driving - how long do you wait?

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Old 09-09-2010, 02:15 PM
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Always below 4,000 RPM's until proper operating temps are reached.

In the Turbo it is easy to tell, because the oil temp gauge goes up, the thermostat opens, and the gauge drops a little. Then, it's party time..

In the Boxster, I only have the coolant temp. gauge. And always wait till it reads 175-180. Is this good enough? Should I wait? How much longer after the 175 is hit? How does this correlate to the oil temp?? Thanks.
Old 09-09-2010, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by No HTwo O
Always below 4,000 RPM's until proper operating temps are reached.

In the Turbo it is easy to tell, because the oil temp gauge goes up, the thermostat opens, and the gauge drops a little. Then, it's party time..

In the Boxster, I only have the coolant temp. gauge. And always wait till it reads 175-180. Is this good enough? Should I wait? How much longer after the 175 is hit? How does this correlate to the oil temp?? Thanks.
Hard to say. My observation though is that at highway speeds (70MPH) on flat roads, oil takes 10/15 min longer to reach op temp after coolant reaches 175F.
Old 09-09-2010, 05:14 PM
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waiting until the oil reaches 200 degrees is overkill.

I'd say anything above 160-175 degrees of oil temp is ok to start getting on it.
Old 09-09-2010, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer
waiting until the oil reaches 200 degrees is overkill.

I'd say anything above 160-175 degrees of oil temp is ok to start getting on it.
What technical information lead you to this conclusion?
Old 09-09-2010, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ADias
The numbers in the first 3 entries (oil < 200F) of the poll are revealing. To note that that kind of engine abuse is made by members of this forum is worse.
This is why I shy away from used high performance, low tolerances sports cars. Everyone checks the DME for overrevs, but nothing I'm aware of in the DME will note how many times the chucklehead owner stressed the engine before the oil was ready to handle it.
Old 09-09-2010, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gravedgr
What technical information lead you to this conclusion?
at 160 to 180 degrees, the oil is plenty thin to properly lubricate the bearings, valvetrain, and rings.

mercedes benz tends to agree as their oil temp warnings in their AMG vehicles turn off at 80c or 177f
Old 09-10-2010, 02:28 AM
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I didn't vote as there is no option for "I drive my car and look at the road, not the oil temp guage"
Old 09-10-2010, 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer
mercedes benz tends to agree as their oil temp warnings in their AMG vehicles turn off at 80c or 177f
I'm not even sure how to respond to this.

Originally Posted by Kuhan
I didn't vote as there is no option for "I drive my car and look at the road, not the oil temp guage"
I take this to mean that you regularly run out of gas, get flat tires, and other issues since you're too busy watching the road to read the gas gauge, TPMS, etc.
Old 09-10-2010, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by gravedgr
I'm not even sure how to respond to this.


I take this to mean that you regularly run out of gas, get flat tires, and other issues since you're too busy watching the road to read the gas gauge, TPMS, etc.
dude, honestly, like I give a ****.

Drive it for 4 hours before getting on it if that makes you happy.

Unless you have conclusive evidence of engine damage that occurred due to a driver getting lively with the throttle at 160 to 180 degrees of oil temperature, your OPINION is worth just as much as mine.
Old 09-10-2010, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by gravedgr
I take this to mean that you regularly run out of gas, get flat tires, and other issues since you're too busy watching the road to read the gas gauge, TPMS, etc.
Yes, I don't look at any of the gauges in my car, I just wait until it stops or makes a funny noise. Until that happens, I have a really good time.
Old 09-10-2010, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Kuhan
Yes, I don't look at any of the gauges in my car, I just wait until it stops or makes a funny noise. Until that happens, I have a really good time.
You have to have something to do while you're on the front straight. Might as well check your gauges.
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I would bet that we are a bit overly worried about this. We use 0-40 oil, and it's very thin.
With thicker oils, obviously warmer temps are espec. important for proper lubrication, but with the 0- weight oil, it's probably less of an issue.
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer
dude, honestly, like I give a ****.

Drive it for 4 hours before getting on it if that makes you happy.

Unless you have conclusive evidence of engine damage that occurred due to a driver getting lively with the throttle at 160 to 180 degrees of oil temperature, your OPINION is worth just as much as mine.
Originally Posted by Kuhan
Yes, I don't look at any of the gauges in my car, I just wait until it stops or makes a funny noise. Until that happens, I have a really good time.
Ignorance is indeed bliss. Its also a motherf*cker when it brings Murphy along to play. Enjoy, and may whomever gets your leftover p-cars have a good warranty!
Old 09-10-2010, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeyguy
I would bet that we are a bit overly worried about this. We use 0-40 oil, and it's very thin.
With thicker oils, obviously warmer temps are espec. important for proper lubrication, but with the 0- weight oil, it's probably less of an issue.
We're also not talking about a 2.5L Camry 4-cyl that struggles to put out 68 hp/L @ 6k rpm, but a (in the case of the S) 3.8L flat 6 that churns out a (still fairly mind boggling) 101 NA hp/L with a 7200 rpm redline. If you buy a timex and want to throw it in the pool, toilet, toolbox, and run it over with the car, knock yourself out. If you buy a highly precise mechanical watch and treat it like ?^%} there's only one person to blame if something goes wrong.

I mean, waiting for 200 degrees of oil temp takes, what, 3-5 minutes? People can't keep their #%^* in their pants that long before driving like a nut? Don't get me wrong - everyone has paid their their own money to drive like a fool if they want, but that doesn't make them any less of a fool.

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Old 09-10-2010, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by gravedgr
This post is indeed metal. \m/

I've never understood why someone wouldn't want to take care of their stuff, but hey. -shrugs-

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