Who would want this PCM feature: 'screen off'?
03-11-2010, 12:23 PM
#16
Nordschleife Master
I had to order my wheel and have them install it - maybe you can do the same - I've seen posts about doing this. Of course, that's a lot of coin if all you are looking for is a dark screen...
What it comes down to is that these cars are missing many little conveniences - or charge more for them and require sometimes a special order - than a typical car these days. Somewhere between purist 911 and beverly hills cruiser. I think my car - any car - should have auto dim mirrors - for heavens sake, but whatever...I still love this car - little nits and all.
What it comes down to is that these cars are missing many little conveniences - or charge more for them and require sometimes a special order - than a typical car these days. Somewhere between purist 911 and beverly hills cruiser. I think my car - any car - should have auto dim mirrors - for heavens sake, but whatever...I still love this car - little nits and all.
no place for Bose, dimming mirrors, Nav and other useless stuff in a sports car.
03-11-2010, 12:41 PM
#17
I also find it very annoying that when a car is ordered without these features that the wiring isn't there for someone to retrofit. Hard to imagine how so many specific wiring harnesses is more cost effective than a standard harness for all.
03-11-2010, 03:33 PM
#18
Nordschleife Master
I agree. Yes, these are sports cars but cars in general have evolved to where you expect certain features, like autodimming, that you find as standard on much lesser cars.
I also find it very annoying that when a car is ordered without these features that the wiring isn't there for someone to retrofit. Hard to imagine how so many specific wiring harnesses is more cost effective than a standard harness for all.
I also find it very annoying that when a car is ordered without these features that the wiring isn't there for someone to retrofit. Hard to imagine how so many specific wiring harnesses is more cost effective than a standard harness for all.
Auto dimming mirrors should be a choice. I do not want them in any car, sports cars or other.
03-11-2010, 04:12 PM
#19
Drifting
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Doodads that are useless or not.. it seems like a design error to offer a PCM display without a display blank/off button... it certainly used to be there (from what the PCM2 folks tell us)... and I can get to it by digging down into the menu system.. something done before driving off obviously.
Unfortunately, we cannot install an aftermarket button to blank/off the screen, since its all software controlled.
Unfortunately, we cannot install an aftermarket button to blank/off the screen, since its all software controlled.
03-11-2010, 04:42 PM
#20
Three Wheelin'
It just makes the appeal of the car unnecessarily awkward and restricted - I'm more or less over it - just one example. Maybe it is all a plot to help us keep the wives out of the cars?
I know it makes it more a purist car, but at the end of the day, it becomes too much like religion to me and not much like practicality. And seriously, as many have pointed out in the past; you get a car with ABS, PSM, PDK, TPMS, PASM, electric windows, and on and on and on...is it really a purist car anymore at that point? No, that ship has so sailed and pooping on something as mundane and common place as auto-dim mirrors is like a final gasp for air from suffocation in a modern 911.
We're all heretics to some degree if we're being honest - there's no purity or real purists except those with dedicated track/race cars - and that's not what we're talking about here with the consumer grade 911.
03-11-2010, 05:05 PM
#21
Nordschleife Master
Steve: Besides the better viewing control a wedge mirror provides me, I've seen the mess the leaking gel from a dimming mirror makes. Not pretty and the colateral damage can be significant.
03-11-2010, 05:20 PM
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Then why must I be burdened with the extra complexity and weight? I don't even use the prism dimmer lever because it interferes with my view behind. I only flip it when some moron is driving an SUV on high beams right behind me in heavy traffic.
Is it not more fair to say those who like them can order them if they want them? On the other end of the comfort/performance scale, the same is true of the sport exhaust. If you want one, order it, right?
Gary
Is it not more fair to say those who like them can order them if they want them? On the other end of the comfort/performance scale, the same is true of the sport exhaust. If you want one, order it, right?
Gary
03-11-2010, 05:47 PM
#23
Nordschleife Master
Then why must I be burdened with the extra complexity and weight? I don't even use the prism dimmer lever because it interferes with my view behind. I only flip it when some moron is driving an SUV on high beams right behind me in heavy traffic.
Is it not more fair to say those who like them can order them if they want them? On the other end of the comfort/performance scale, the same is true of the sport exhaust. If you want one, order it, right?
Gary
Is it not more fair to say those who like them can order them if they want them? On the other end of the comfort/performance scale, the same is true of the sport exhaust. If you want one, order it, right?
Gary
03-11-2010, 09:42 PM
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03-11-2010, 11:01 PM
#25
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Come on, you don't need the MF wheel - reach your hand down and hit the large off button on the 997.2!
03-12-2010, 12:50 AM
#26
Nordschleife Master
i actually like the dimming mirrors... u might be able to click to tilt your rearview but you cant do that on the sides.. and ive had many a SUV's behind me with their lights glaring in and the dimming mirrors are very useful.
03-12-2010, 01:26 AM
#27
Three Wheelin'
Not the same and not what the OP requested. That shuts off the system entirely rather than simply darkening the screen - but without an MF wheel, you probably wouldn't know that.
03-12-2010, 10:07 AM
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I see, thanks for the correction! 
In that case, I'd like to request for my S:
* 4 heater seat heater settings like my BMW
* Mirrors that tilt on backing like my BMW
* Heated steering wheel like my BMW
* A keyles entry/push to start system like my wife's Infiniti
* Voice activated NAV ...
Oh wait, maybe I should just buy an M3/m5??
In all seriousness, there are little features I wish the car had, but they are all very very insignificant relative to the perfomance ones. And, it those are significant, I'd spend my money with a different auto company!
The list has to stop somewhere, I think Porsche picks the right options to offer (touch screen NAV) to focus mainly on the driving experience where they are differentiated.
In that case, I'd like to request for my S:
* 4 heater seat heater settings like my BMW
* Mirrors that tilt on backing like my BMW
* Heated steering wheel like my BMW
* A keyles entry/push to start system like my wife's Infiniti
* Voice activated NAV ...
Oh wait, maybe I should just buy an M3/m5??
In all seriousness, there are little features I wish the car had, but they are all very very insignificant relative to the perfomance ones. And, it those are significant, I'd spend my money with a different auto company!
The list has to stop somewhere, I think Porsche picks the right options to offer (touch screen NAV) to focus mainly on the driving experience where they are differentiated.
03-14-2010, 06:43 PM
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03-14-2010, 09:40 PM
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