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07-07-2009, 05:57 PM
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When you calculate a lease, the residual is calculated as a % of the MSRP. MRM is an artifical cap on the MSRP used for the calculation. This is done because we all know that a car with $20,000 worth of personalized options will not carry over fully into the future value of the car. Porsche has decided that while some options add future value(up to $108,480 in this case), a car with an MSRP of 122k wont be worth more than the 108k car in 3 years.
07-07-2009, 06:58 PM
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This thread, along with the other 'bashing' threads are hilarious. I've been 'with out Porsche' for about 8 months now, and getting ready to pull the trigger on a new 2009 DFI C2S.... I think now is as good a time to do it as ever. Christ, back in 07 I got a whopping 4% off my ordered C2S. Now some of you are complaining (on both sides of the line-of fire) that the discounts aren't big enough, or that you're not making enough money.
Spend enough time on the boards, just observing and you'll get a real sense of peoples character. And some of your egos are laughable at best. Generally, I think we all can agree that there are a LOT of not so professional car salesmen. But the same is true for a lot of Docs, Attorneys, Realtors, Business Owners, and yes, Engineers. There, I said it. Seems some of you are just hell bent on doing away with all the salesmen/people. Go ahead. I invite you to quit your computer-geek job and try and sell something. You deal with general public and see if you still feel so smug about yourself.
Rediculous.Life is too short, and time too valuable to waist on BS. Don't like the person you're doing business with? Walk. Really simple. Finding someone you trust to do business with is 'extremely' rare and unique. I for one love talking to my local guy about cars, business, world affairs. He kills me, but he's a very professional, and all around good guy. I wouldn't unleash him upon the likes of some of you for fear he'd want to kill me afterwards.....
Sheesh. Give some the good guys here a break already. Or go schedule another therapy session. If you can't do either, just get in your Porsche and get out for a bit. Seems to do the trick for me.
Peace.
Spend enough time on the boards, just observing and you'll get a real sense of peoples character. And some of your egos are laughable at best. Generally, I think we all can agree that there are a LOT of not so professional car salesmen. But the same is true for a lot of Docs, Attorneys, Realtors, Business Owners, and yes, Engineers. There, I said it. Seems some of you are just hell bent on doing away with all the salesmen/people. Go ahead. I invite you to quit your computer-geek job and try and sell something. You deal with general public and see if you still feel so smug about yourself.
Rediculous.Life is too short, and time too valuable to waist on BS. Don't like the person you're doing business with? Walk. Really simple. Finding someone you trust to do business with is 'extremely' rare and unique. I for one love talking to my local guy about cars, business, world affairs. He kills me, but he's a very professional, and all around good guy. I wouldn't unleash him upon the likes of some of you for fear he'd want to kill me afterwards.....
Sheesh. Give some the good guys here a break already. Or go schedule another therapy session. If you can't do either, just get in your Porsche and get out for a bit. Seems to do the trick for me.
Peace.
07-09-2009, 10:09 AM
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Thanks Bucking! Just in the process of looking for a turbo -- I ordered a 2010, but if the deals are that good and I can find the options I want in a color I like, I might as well do this now. Off to play with a lease calculator to see what this works out to. Are your numbers with 12k miles, or just 10k? I actually want to look at 12 and 15. I am afraid, once I get it, I will never get out of it...
07-09-2009, 10:18 AM
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Thanks Bucking! Just in the process of looking for a turbo -- I ordered a 2010, but if the deals are that good and I can find the options I want in a color I like, I might as well do this now. Off to play with a lease calculator to see what this works out to. Are your numbers with 12k miles, or just 10k? I actually want to look at 12 and 15. I am afraid, once I get it, I will never get out of it...
07-10-2009, 09:19 AM
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what do you think an 09 turbo cab -- nothing crazy on the options, but well optioned -- can be had for? or, better yet, what percentage off MSRP or dealer invoice should I be asking for/getting? Thanks in advance for the help
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07-10-2009, 06:06 PM
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Bucking -- are your numbers for a Cabriolet or Coupe? If Coupe -- do you have the Cab numbers? Thanks!!!
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07-11-2009, 10:49 AM
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Those are coupe numbers. Cab residual is 47% for 15k miles, add 2% for 12k and 3% for 10k. MRM is $161,100. These are for a manual car, tip cars are 2 points lower, with mrm of $164,250.
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FWIW user 'cloak&dagger' is now banned. Several of us suspected he was 'likemystoppie?' - who is banned, in disguise. Since the IP addresses match, cloak is also banned. IB can decide whether to invoke the $5,000 fine which is part of the terms of service we all accept when we sign up.
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07-12-2009, 02:07 PM
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Thanks Alfie!
Is there a Porsche-to-Dealer incentive too (besides unloading their '09 inventory, of course)? Does the dealer get $$ for leasing an '09, or financing - like they do if they sell the car outright? Or is their $$ based solely on what they sell the car for, over dealer invoice?
Just saw on another forum that an "09 Turbo is selling for $30k off MSRP -- The link is to the car is below. Is this one of those - if it looks too good to be true lessons? Or should I be really tough on price with the cars I am looking at because Porsche will take care of the dealer?
http://livermore.porschedealer.com/2...24029/info.php
I appreciate the help -- I am hoping to buy one this week!
Is there a Porsche-to-Dealer incentive too (besides unloading their '09 inventory, of course)? Does the dealer get $$ for leasing an '09, or financing - like they do if they sell the car outright? Or is their $$ based solely on what they sell the car for, over dealer invoice?
Just saw on another forum that an "09 Turbo is selling for $30k off MSRP -- The link is to the car is below. Is this one of those - if it looks too good to be true lessons? Or should I be really tough on price with the cars I am looking at because Porsche will take care of the dealer?
http://livermore.porschedealer.com/2...24029/info.php
I appreciate the help -- I am hoping to buy one this week!
07-12-2009, 02:14 PM
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The dealer gets paid on finance or lease interest mark up, though none is allowed on the 1.9 offer. We get a flat fee for that which is basically a non factor.
Porsche is taking care of the dealer in the sense that we have actual programs, which is rare for porsche, which should allow us to sell the cars. Not much beyond that. Unloading inventory is the primary focus right now.
Porsche is taking care of the dealer in the sense that we have actual programs, which is rare for porsche, which should allow us to sell the cars. Not much beyond that. Unloading inventory is the primary focus right now.