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Old 01-23-2009 | 11:10 PM
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You could argue that with the arrival of a lightweight, stripped out version of the Cayman that Porsche is preparing to let the another model share the spotlight with the 911.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/237264/
Old 01-23-2009 | 11:16 PM
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I guess Porsche is hedging their bets. They probably have figured that the 911 may lose future steam and thus offer a suitable replacement? I sure hope not, there is no other car with the history and heritage of the 911.
Old 01-24-2009 | 09:10 AM
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The writing is on the wall. Porsche must develop the Cayman platform to stay competitive in the GT2 class. I think this is the first small step towards further and future racing development. As previously posted, there has been a battle in house on this point for some time and maybe the racing program and the engineers are besting the marketers . If it is a harbinger, this is good news as a true race developed and mid-engined powered Porsche would be great for us all!

BTW Le Chef good stuff and great posts recently!!

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Old 01-24-2009 | 10:05 AM
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That is great news, I'm interested... Too bad the economy is such crap otherwise I'd have it on my radar for this year.
Old 01-24-2009 | 10:45 AM
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I expect that the move up in the Cayman models this year and the link posted signal a couple of things:

1. The Cayman has the potential many have thought, and with more power and suspension tweaks it will give the 997.1 a run. Probably won't be too long before it is pushing the 997.1S and even the 997.2S.

2. The 911 shape is Porsche's iconic car. But its getting stiffer competition from the Corvette and now that pesky Nissan. To compete, Porsche will have to add capability and therefore cost to the 911.

3. Adding cost to the 911 will hurt sales, even if it preserves the position of that model in Porsche's line-up and relative to other high performance sports cars. This is especially true given the price points of both Nissans (370 and GT-R) and the 'vettes. After all, its the turbo that the GT-R is after, not the 997S or GT3, and the price differential is huge.

4. Enter the Cayman - beef up its capability and open the door to more owners at a competitive price to the others, plus a lower cost of entry for club and other racers.

So I expect the 911 shape will continue and move up in both performance and price, but so will the Cayman, filling different niches in Porsche's market and strategy.

Just my $0.02...
Old 01-24-2009 | 11:03 AM
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I would love a Cayman GT3 or a Cayman Turbo...
Old 01-24-2009 | 11:41 AM
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As a 911 owner I'm still happy to see this development with the Cayman. If tall people like myself can fit in the car a little better than the current Cayman then there's a good chance I'll get one. They need a few more inches of headroom, especially since the occupants are (supposedly) wearing helmets.
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Originally Posted by yemenmocha
As a 911 owner I'm still happy to see this development with the Cayman. If tall people like myself can fit in the car a little better than the current Cayman then there's a good chance I'll get one. They need a few more inches of headroom, especially since the occupants are (supposedly) wearing helmets.
They also need to add a couple more inches of leg room for tall drivers.

I am 6'3" and if I put the seat back far enough in a Cayman to get the leg room to be comfortable, then the seat back is against the rear deck (firewall) and is almost 90° from horizontal (at least it feels like that). If I slide the seat forward to get the seat back at a comfortable angle, then my legs are too cramped. So a Cayman won't work for me, especially as a DD.
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Originally Posted by gota911
They also need to add a couple more inches of leg room for tall drivers.

I am 6'3" and if I put the seat back far enough in a Cayman to get the leg room to be comfortable, then the seat back is against the rear deck (firewall) and is almost 90° from horizontal (at least it feels like that). If I slide the seat forward to get the seat back at a comfortable angle, then my legs are too cramped. So a Cayman won't work for me, especially as a DD.
I am only 6'1", but the Cayman doesn't have enough leg room for me either. I like the car other than that. My 997S has so much more leg room.
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a cayman GT3 with PDK for track use will be good.
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I doubt that Porsche will ever build a mid-engine car to replace the 911. For better or for worse, the rear engine layout and the shape of the 911 are the identity of the Porsche brand. The mid-engine configuration is clearly better but Porsche can't replace the rear engine 911 any more that Harley Davidson can replace the V-twin engine.
Old 01-24-2009 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Targa Tim
a cayman GT3 with PDK for track use will be good.
^ from your post to Zuffenhausen & Wessiach's ears....

Originally Posted by _Nathan
I doubt that Porsche will ever build a mid-engine car to replace the 911. For better or for worse, the rear engine layout and the shape of the 911 are the identity of the Porsche brand. The mid-engine configuration is clearly better but Porsche can't replace the rear engine 911 any more that Harley Davidson can replace the V-twin engine.
They will not have a choice to be/remain competitive in certain GT classes. Whether regular customers get to buy one or not is a different issue. Re the 911's intent see this post: https://rennlist.com/forums/6114589-post34.html . The identity would remain as a GT car (as was intended).
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Another tall guy here. 6'5" and love the idea of the Cayman, but it just doesn't fit! Only the 911 with certain seats worked for me, and so that's what I ordered. Frankly, I would be very happy if Porsche could produce a mid-engine car with a little more cabin space for my head, legs, and shoulders, especially at 40% less than the 997.2!
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I don't fit in a Cayman with a helmet either.
Old 01-25-2009 | 12:55 AM
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Doubtfull we will see this in the US


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