I'm starting to hate my C2S
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I'm not going to say one is more fun than another. But there is something to be said for the fun of less powerful cars, and I have been thinking about getting my wife a regular Boxster in part for this reason. Although I LOVE the car, I have been somewhat disappointed that I have virtually no opportunity to stretch the legs of my 3.6. I imagine the problem is more pronounced in the S. I realized when I test drove the cars that the 3.6 was able to perform far in excess of my ability to use it on the street. Nothing against someone who wants or needs more torque, but I sure as hell didn't need any more than I got. I do think the point of an S is that it kicks more *** on a track.
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I didn't think the point of this thread was to suggest that the S is better (or worse) than anything else; I thought it was expressing a view that the car didn't quite light the fire like other cars did in the past.
Clearly an S (as with any other P car) can light as many fires as needed! - The problem encountered is more a reflection on the roads and the law enforcement on them (same here in Europe), so IMO the best advice here so far is to Track it - track it lots - and then drive around the roads in a more leisurely fashion enjoying the relative luxury and smoothness of a wonderful car like this.
Or you could buy a motorised skate-board, these can give you massive thrills and the feeling of living on the edge when you use them on mountain roads - all safely within the speed limits!
Clearly an S (as with any other P car) can light as many fires as needed! - The problem encountered is more a reflection on the roads and the law enforcement on them (same here in Europe), so IMO the best advice here so far is to Track it - track it lots - and then drive around the roads in a more leisurely fashion enjoying the relative luxury and smoothness of a wonderful car like this.
Or you could buy a motorised skate-board, these can give you massive thrills and the feeling of living on the edge when you use them on mountain roads - all safely within the speed limits!
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This thread definitively has a very good point. With modern cars increasing their performance capabilities so much, you can only enojy a small percentage of those in public roads. And a less performing car can become more fun to drive because of that. I recently drove the Mercedes C63 AMG...could not find opportunities to explore full power (let alone full braking or handling). So tracking these cars is the (partial) solution. Yet despite having more car than driver skills myself, I keep dreaming of 997 turbos and GT3s...
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From the very beginning all of us should realize exploring full potential of our "sports cars" outside of the track will not happen. I am not a track guy, so I just have to accept buzzing around town and taking longs trips. With this limited experience I still enjoy the power of passing slower cars, the solid handling, going in and out of curves. I bought my car knowing I would never exceed the envelope, but if I had to I could.
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Very interesting perspectives- To me, my 997 makes simple things like going to the store for milk 2x as fun. I guess if it feels too tame, maybe make it feel more sports-car like? This is what I have done with my 996 and am in process with on my 997:
afterhoursautomotive.com sport pipes (true sports car sound and great rpm feedback)
PSS10 or KWv3 coilovers (I prefer the KW's but S owners may not want to give up the PASM)
Porsche or B&M SSK
KN Intake
ECU flash (InMotion has a good ECU upgrade for $300, and can map the egas to be more responsive) inmotionusa.com
These mods kept the general manners of the car intact, but added that extra raw edginess which adds to driving fun at all speeds.
afterhoursautomotive.com sport pipes (true sports car sound and great rpm feedback)
PSS10 or KWv3 coilovers (I prefer the KW's but S owners may not want to give up the PASM)
Porsche or B&M SSK
KN Intake
ECU flash (InMotion has a good ECU upgrade for $300, and can map the egas to be more responsive) inmotionusa.com
These mods kept the general manners of the car intact, but added that extra raw edginess which adds to driving fun at all speeds.
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People often ask me why I drive Porsches, Ferrari's, and now a Lamborghini as well. I say the samething everytime, it is because I get a thrill everytime I start the engine. If you are paying more than 100K for a car, it better move you, make you want to not get out of it. If I ever loose those feelings, I guess I be buying a Lexus.
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People often ask me why I drive Porsches, Ferrari's, and now a Lamborghini as well. I say the samething everytime, it is because I get a thrill everytime I start the engine. If you are paying more than 100K for a car, it better move you, make you want to not get out of it. If I ever loose those feelings, I guess I be buying a Lexus.
....just sayin'.
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And it'll be a lot cheaper too, with no out of pocket expenses. In fact, you'll likely make decent tips just from getting your thrills firing up engines on exotics - can't beat that!
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If PSM is intervening on public roads, you really have no business having a driver's license.
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"It is more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow" is how it has been stated to me.
Nevertheless, having a rear-engined, rwd, nimble, great braking car like my 997S is the "feel" that I look for in a sporting car. I definitely agree that the upgrades mentioned above enhance these qualities and my car's overall driving experience. It's expensive to improve on an already great car, but if you're bored and thinking about bailing, it might just be the ticket.
Nevertheless, having a rear-engined, rwd, nimble, great braking car like my 997S is the "feel" that I look for in a sporting car. I definitely agree that the upgrades mentioned above enhance these qualities and my car's overall driving experience. It's expensive to improve on an already great car, but if you're bored and thinking about bailing, it might just be the ticket.
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Ian, in parts of our fine country, there are still wide open roads that are very lightly travelled, and on a 90 degree or hairpin turn, it doesn't take much speed to test the car. Just sayin'.
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I think I would have more fun going 0 to 60 in 2.46 seconds than in going 0 to 60 in 2 mins and 46 secs.
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But I know what you're saying. Still, my Mini is a slow car and I drive it fast most of the time, but it's no fun at all compared to when I get behind the wheel of my 997 at street legal speeds.
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well, i try to get the fun factor out of my car every day - right gear and right amount of throttle at the right time with the nanny button off can add a bit of fun to many turns and exits when the path is clear...
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People often ask me why I drive Porsches, Ferrari's, and now a Lamborghini as well. I say the samething everytime, it is because I get a thrill everytime I start the engine. If you are paying more than 100K for a car, it better move you, make you want to not get out of it. If I ever loose those feelings, I guess I be buying a Lexus.