OCBen

Okay, just as I thought.

The "fried-egg" headlights are the ones I posted above, seen on the Boxster.

And not the ones you posted.

CharlieJr

Ben, Ben, Ben...

"Fried egg headlights" is a colloquial expression - - with very flexible definition and use.

We are not defining axiomatic geometry here, okay??

The term fried egg headlights, as used by everyday Porsche people, refers to both the 986 and 996 models. I posted a pic of a 996 model - - whose headlights are often referred to as "fried egg" in practical use by the Porsche general public, and has been for a long time, and was the point made by that earlier post.

Let's keep it simple and straightforward, okay?

Sheeeesh.

OCBen

So then that goes to my earlier point. That anything that is not a round headlight is a "fried egg" headlamp according to the 'very flexible definition' including the Cayenne's and the Cayman's and the 987's, right?

I mean, it's either a 'very flexible definition' or it's a definite definition as spelled out in that wiki reference you quoted, which I think is quite accurate.

I'm just trying to get to the bottom of the definition. Does it refer to the shared look with the Boxster, or does it refer to any headlight design that is not a round look?

I happen to agree with Wiki.

Nugget

Colloquialisms aside, both style headlights used on the 996 (boxster style and turbo style) are hideous and are far uglier than the 997 Mk2 droopy taillights. I posted the other day to a different thread with a comparison:

https://rennlist.com/forums/showpost...6&postcount=12

I'll take droopy taillights over 996 headlamps any day.

OCBen

That was a good post.

I'm actually hoping that for the next 911 generation they go to a headlamp design similar to the CGT. I don't really care for the round headlamps myself. I'd like to see something more exotic.

richc

The new lights are horrible...and that's all I'm going to say on that.

abe

Funny, the only reason I bought a 997 vs 996 was because I liked the more traditional look of the round lights vs the fried eggs. BTW, this is not to be in any way offensive to those souls with the fried eggs.
abe

DreamCarrera

"Fried eggs"? I have owned a 2000 911 Carrera for about 3 years now and this is the first time I have heard that expression. Oh well, I guess it's good to learn something new every day.

As far as the "hideous" comment, don't forget that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. While I certainly like the oval/round traditional 911 headlights, I also feel that the 996 style headlights(both of them) are also very attractive.

What's with the 996 bashing? Have some of you been spending too much time over on the 993 section?

I would advise you not to spend too much time over there however, lest you get offended by their derogatory comments about the 997s “wet sump” engine or the blasphemous “water pumper” engine comments.

jumper5836

The fried egg look was the early cheap headlights. Even found on the GT1.


Much different then the newer xenon lights


Given the 997S mkII is 65 hp over a 996, I would hope to hell it will be faster but that still doesn't mean the tail lights are good looking.

ELUSIVE

Whatever they are called...the are the biggest reason why I never have and never will own a 996 or 986.

OCBen

I always liked this so-called "fried egg" look. It was innovative and progressive, the combination of headlamp, turn signal, and fog lamp into one integrated unit.

I also liked the turbo look on the 996 from 2002 on.

am722

I sort of like the mk2 996 lights. I think the mk1 lights look like they are about 1/8 full of orange soda that ought to slosh around while driving.

OCBen

Okay, what the hell's this mk2 996 lingo and mk1 talk?

No seriously, I have no idea what mk1 and mk2 stand for.

Ucube

Ben, that's the designation of the refresh within the 996 model. You can probably apply that to the 997 now as well.

mstams

I understand what is meant by "fried egg" although I would have never thought of it myself...