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Old 06-14-2008, 09:05 PM
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I would love to see these cars match up with skilled drivers. One of R&T or C&D pronunced GT-R the king but they had a Nissan guy driving both cars. I was not surprised at the GTR's advantages on the straights, but I couldn't believe the advantages in the twisties, where 911s dominate.
Old 06-14-2008, 11:46 PM
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I am ready for the flat 8 in the 998. See, that's the way to mix politics (slogans) and cars.
What is a 998? It's been reported that the successor to the 997 will be the 991. MY12.
Old 06-15-2008, 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 997, esq
You're dreaming if you think any any administration, Democrat or Republican, will deliberately implement a policy that will result in gas lines. Exogenous factors may result in gas lines, as in the 70s. But there is no political reason to do something to deliberately raise the price of gasoline significantly or to limit supplies. Current prices are sufficiently high to discourage most people from buying and using inefficient cars, which is probably a good thing. Further restrictions on supply / raised prices will lead to inflation, which no one wants.

That said, the hp wars are over, imo. That's not a bad thing.
Both ******** are talking about exactly that. Windfall tax will create shortages and higher prices. Obama wants to do it because he is a socialist and McCain wants to do it because he is an knucklehead on economics.
Old 06-15-2008, 10:41 PM
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The Nissan may push Porsche.... to move faster into the new era of advancement that goes beyond sheer horsepower. As many posters have written, it seems like we're hitting some practical limiations with street cars. Maybe we'll get cars that go to 60 mph in under 3 seconds...to what end? I think there is still a lot of advancement to be made in ride control, (the ability to combine comfort with exceptional handling), exceptional fuel economy with great performance, braking advancement....all of the things that make a driving experience exceptional and safe. In my view, there's still a long way to go. Porsche also seems to have achieved iconic styling with the coupe and the cabriolet, something few manufactures have done. Maybe Nissan can do it, but looking at the shape of the GTR, I can't see it. In a lot of ways, I think there's something to doing more with less. Putting a 500 hp V8 in a car will surely get you performance results - it has to. But I think this is where Nissan will push Porsche (and maybe has). Nissan has developed an awsome car from a performance point of view, with excpetional interior features. Porsche will need to adapt, and already are beginning to do that, to new standards customers expect in cars.

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Old 06-16-2008, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by PeterC4
Nissan has developed an awsome car from a performance point of view, with excpetional interior features. Porsche will need to adapt, and already are beginning to do that, to new standards customers expect in cars.
I think Porsche has done a great job adapting with the 09 Carrera/S cars. A huge missing item has been the lack of iPod connectivity and the new universal audio interface seems to fit the bill perfectly. Whatever people may think about the interface and torque handling capabilities, the PDK tranny is also (in my opinion) moving to catch up with the state of the art.

Porsche seems to be ahead of the curve in terms of CO2 emissions and while I don't really care about CO2 today (I'm not getting hit with taxes due to it), I'm betting there will be a time that I care.

I can't imagine that Porsche is concerned about losing sales to the GTR. I really think the markets are pretty different and that Porsche customers might also be GTR customers but not at the expense of their Porsche(s). In other words, a Porsche buyer likely lives in "the world of AND" whereas a Nissan buyer is probably stretching to get a GTR.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffGw_XHrN8k
Old 08-09-2009, 09:08 PM
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Haha- 4S PDK FTMFW

Love it. Did you see the launch into the first turn? Man...
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And quoting something I read on 911 & Porsche World after a test drive on a track they did with the 997.2 C4S with PDK:

THE EVIDENCE SHOWS THAT THIS CAR IS A POINT TO POINT LETHAL WEAPON

Couldn't agree more !
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Old 08-21-2009, 04:29 AM
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The killed the launch control on the Nissan because it continued to break down various parts. Wait till the car has done 30.000 miles. Depreciation will be enormous!
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Originally Posted by 997CS4
The killed the launch control on the Nissan because it continued to break down various parts. Wait till the car has done 30.000 miles. Depreciation will be enormous!
Excuse me? The software was changed to lower the launch rpms.

I love the Best Motoring videos but what does that have to do with the GT-R?



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