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Old 02-19-2008, 07:18 AM
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Performance cars are being assaulted on various fronts. First there's the CO2 emissions, and now the campaign for speed cameras. Initially there will be speed cameras on roads near schools, construction sites, and residential areas. How could any civic minded person be opposed to that? Then there will be studies lauding how effective these cameras are in stopping speeders and they should be added to highways. The addition of the cameras is typically not a cost to the State since the camera manufacturers just want a share of the "take". Keep in mind that speed cameras have nothing to do with revenue collection. It's all about safety. If you think I'm exaggerating, here's a link to an article that appeared in my local newspaper.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/loc...5723543.column

This is from the article for those who don't have the time to read it:

A second study by the institute of a pilot speed camera program in Scottsdale suggests that Maryland is missing an opportunity for real safety improvements by limiting the program to residential areas.

The Arizona program posted cameras on the interstate-like Loop 101, a road with a 65 mph speed limit. The study found the cameras reduced the percentage of drivers going more than 75 mph from 15 percent to 1 to 2 percent. The institute's survey found that during the program, Scottsdale drivers supported it, 77 percent to 20 percent.
Old 02-19-2008, 07:38 AM
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They are only about safety when the areas affected are clearly and unambiguously marked as such.

If the speed trap is not well annotated, then they are strictly about revenue and should be challenged as such.
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National Motorist Association has a position.
http://www.motorists.org/photoenforce/
Triple A on the other hand has no problem with camera enforcement (and should get back to what they do best, selling insurance & Disney vacations )
Old 02-19-2008, 10:24 AM
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As with red-light cameras, it's just easy money.
Old 02-19-2008, 02:50 PM
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We'll soon all be wearing ski masks to avoid identification!
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I always wear a gorilla suit when driving thru unfamiliar jurisdictions.
Old 02-19-2008, 05:11 PM
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The state of Texas passed a law last year banning them when a couple cities started using them in pilot programs. They were determinted to not provide a benefit in road safety. Red light runner cameras on the other hand are fully endorsed and widely encouraged across the state. Hence why these cameras are becoming more common across all our metropolitan areas.
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Originally Posted by 911Dave
I always wear a gorilla suit when driving thru unfamiliar jurisdictions.
Silverback I hope.
Old 02-19-2008, 07:18 PM
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911 Dave -- Thought I'd finally break down and ask -- Who is that smiling face on your avatar? He kinda' gives me the creeps. =)
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I know this may be stupid to ask, but are there speed camera detectors?


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Originally Posted by CButler
911 Dave -- Thought I'd finally break down and ask -- Who is that smiling face on your avatar? He kinda' gives me the creeps. =)
That's the President, Peter Sellers played 3 roles in Dr. Strangelove, iirc?

Photo-radar is pretty common in Germany.
I don't mind if it's done for safety, i.e. posted "photo radar", and in locations that have history of accidents.

I was doing 90 all day today on the LA freeways, open and clear, would suck to have my picture taken while just cruising along....
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Originally Posted by DJ23
I know this may be stupid to ask, but are there speed camera detectors?


Jay
Good vision is the only way to detect them.
Some newer radar detectors, like the Passport 9500 (which I love), have GPS and can mark "speed traps" for future reference. Of course the driver needs to identify these places and use the marking feature.
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Originally Posted by Meister Fahrer
That's the President, Peter Sellers played 3 roles in Dr. Strangelove, iirc?....
aka "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb."
An absolute Kubrick classic.
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My irreverent wine-induced thought:

Can't we just think of these tickets as a mail-order permit to drive faster? I mean, as long as there are no points...

*hic*
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I've found that a well-aimed air pistol is pretty good at eliminating repeat threats.


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