Buy 964Turbo, 993C2 or 997C2
#16
Grip vs. Handling
Weight plays a part but also the way the suspension and bushings are set up. I'm not a suspension expert but I know I prefer the more alive feeling of the older cars. The trade-off is safety with more airbags etc.
#17
It's why I was specific about the differences between the two. The 997 has significantly higher levels of grip, but is much less fun to drive because the handling is "safer" and more "numb" than the older cars. Frankly the best handling cars I've driven were a 2.7RS and a Lotus Elise. Neither were particularly fast but the handling on both was very sweet.
Weight plays a part but also the way the suspension and bushings are set up. I'm not a suspension expert but I know I prefer the more alive feeling of the older cars. The trade-off is safety with more airbags etc.
Weight plays a part but also the way the suspension and bushings are set up. I'm not a suspension expert but I know I prefer the more alive feeling of the older cars. The trade-off is safety with more airbags etc.
#18
It's why I was specific about the differences between the two. The 997 has significantly higher levels of grip, but is much less fun to drive because the handling is "safer" and more "numb" than the older cars. Frankly the best handling cars I've driven were a 2.7RS and a Lotus Elise. Neither were particularly fast but the handling on both was very sweet.
Weight plays a part but also the way the suspension and bushings are set up. I'm not a suspension expert but I know I prefer the more alive feeling of the older cars. The trade-off is safety with more airbags etc.
Weight plays a part but also the way the suspension and bushings are set up. I'm not a suspension expert but I know I prefer the more alive feeling of the older cars. The trade-off is safety with more airbags etc.
#20
Hi,
presently i have a track car 944 Turbo. I want purchase 911 for have fun on street and maybey long ride. I think the 993C2 or 964 Turbo are more fun but little old. Need your help for do the best choice. Presently my heart is with 964 Turbo 1991, very agrésive look and look like fun to drive. But this car is very expensive, with low millage is the same price of 997C2 2005. Thanks
presently i have a track car 944 Turbo. I want purchase 911 for have fun on street and maybey long ride. I think the 993C2 or 964 Turbo are more fun but little old. Need your help for do the best choice. Presently my heart is with 964 Turbo 1991, very agrésive look and look like fun to drive. But this car is very expensive, with low millage is the same price of 997C2 2005. Thanks
#22
#23
It depends...
#24
Are you implying that the 911's chassis and suspension engineers have built a car that is less capable than cars three generations its forbearer?
#25
#26
You obviously don't understand
A 997S will be faster than a 997 (with PASM and 19" wheels) around a track. Is that due to better handling? No - it's due to more power. The logic of your thinking falls apart if you don't understand the concept.
#27
Definition of handling:
Car handling and vehicle handling is a description of the way wheeled vehicles perform transverse to their direction of motion, particularly during cornering and swerving. It also includes their stability when moving in a straight line. Handling and braking are the major components of a vehicle's "active" safety. The maximum lateral acceleration is sometimes discussed separately as "road holding". Handling is an esoteric performance area because rapid and violent manoeuvres are often only used in unforeseen circumstances.
Notice the difference between "handling" and "road holding" aka grip.
Car handling and vehicle handling is a description of the way wheeled vehicles perform transverse to their direction of motion, particularly during cornering and swerving. It also includes their stability when moving in a straight line. Handling and braking are the major components of a vehicle's "active" safety. The maximum lateral acceleration is sometimes discussed separately as "road holding". Handling is an esoteric performance area because rapid and violent manoeuvres are often only used in unforeseen circumstances.
Notice the difference between "handling" and "road holding" aka grip.
#28
That's not what i'm saying. Do you understand the concept of handling? It's about HOW the car drives not how fast it goes. As much as anything else it's a qualitative measure of the driving experience.
A 997S will be faster than a 997 (with PASM and 19" wheels) around a track. Is that due to better handling? No - it's due to more power. The logic of your thinking falls apart if you don't understand the concept.
A 997S will be faster than a 997 (with PASM and 19" wheels) around a track. Is that due to better handling? No - it's due to more power. The logic of your thinking falls apart if you don't understand the concept.
As stated previously, you seem to be using "fun to drive" or "visceral" as interchangeable with "handling" and I don't think you're going to get anyone else here to agree with your definition.
#29
Definition of handling:
Car handling and vehicle handling is a description of the way wheeled vehicles perform transverse to their direction of motion, particularly during cornering and swerving. It also includes their stability when moving in a straight line. Handling and braking are the major components of a vehicle's "active" safety. The maximum lateral acceleration is sometimes discussed separately as "road holding". Handling is an esoteric performance area because rapid and violent manoeuvres are often only used in unforeseen circumstances.
Notice the difference between "handling" and "road holding" aka grip.
Car handling and vehicle handling is a description of the way wheeled vehicles perform transverse to their direction of motion, particularly during cornering and swerving. It also includes their stability when moving in a straight line. Handling and braking are the major components of a vehicle's "active" safety. The maximum lateral acceleration is sometimes discussed separately as "road holding". Handling is an esoteric performance area because rapid and violent manoeuvres are often only used in unforeseen circumstances.
Notice the difference between "handling" and "road holding" aka grip.