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Old May 28, 2007 | 11:31 PM
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I don't heel-toe, I toe-toe (big toe on brake pedal, little toes for dabbing gas). This method is decidedly less aggressive than heel-toe, and might be a better option for the street.

That said, I only toe-toe on the street when I'm approaching a right-angle intersection and I need to brake and downshift relatively quickly to make the turn. This pretty much only happens in urban grids with one-way streets.
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Old May 28, 2007 | 11:46 PM
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I have tried the left/right side activity at the top of my foot, and it doesn't seem correct in the way that the brake is the main activity.

This is what I am thinking is the best way:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuoZe...elated&search=
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Old May 29, 2007 | 12:39 AM
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I find heel-toe at the track to now be quite easy after first practicing with the car engine turned OFF; then practicing on the street; then at the track going slower than usual, and then finally going full speed. Now it's second nature on and off the track. I use it about 1/4th the time on the street, and 100% at the track.
As I brake, I roll my foot to the right and catch the gas pedal with the right side of my foot. I find no need for pedal width extensions, etc. I have a 9 1/2" shoe and on the track get the best feel from the smaller lightweight race shoes. My smallest outside width tennis shoes work best on the street, but any shoe works once you get the hang of it. (Though new slippery leather soles aren't so great).
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Old May 29, 2007 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by speedread
I find heel-toe at the track to now be quite easy after first practicing with the car engine turned OFF; then practicing on the street; then at the track going slower than usual, and then finally going full speed. Now it's second nature on and off the track. I use it about 1/4th the time on the street, and 100% at the track.
As I brake, I roll my foot to the right and catch the gas pedal with the right side of my foot. I find no need for pedal width extensions, etc. I have a 9 1/2" shoe and on the track get the best feel from the smaller lightweight race shoes. My smallest outside width tennis shoes work best on the street, but any shoe works once you get the hang of it. (Though new slippery leather soles aren't so great).
spedread - You describe the ideal method perfectly. Actually the phrase heel and toe is somewhat misleading, since in effect you roll the outside part of your shoe to the gas pedal and then blip it to raise engine rpm. There's a super video demonstarting the technique, but I can't recall the site where I saw it. I rarely use this technique on public roads since I rarely brake hard when downshifting unless I'm at the track.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BrendanC
I have tried the left/right side activity at the top of my foot, and it doesn't seem correct in the way that the brake is the main activity.

This is what I am thinking is the best way:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuoZe...elated&search=
One difference with a Porsche and this video is that the gas pedal on the video's car is top hinged and your Porsche is floor hinged. Because of the nature of the hinge, the lower part of your gas pedal will have less "effect" then the top.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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jgordon - With equal respect, I don't heel and toe on the street. With light braking and moderate revs there is no point in it FOR ME. The only time I use heavy braking and a downshift is at the track.

The Easy Way To Learn Heel and Toe:

Sit in the car, engine running in neutral. Push on the brake pedal and roll your foot to blip the gas. After multiple applications the movement of the foot becomes natural. I have taught this in the pits are DE and had the driver happily doing a pretty decent hell and toe
in the next session.

My personal experience is that all the modern cars, that is 99x and 98x have pedals set up for heel and toe at the track.

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Old May 29, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BrendanC
I have tried the left/right side activity at the top of my foot, and it doesn't seem correct in the way that the brake is the main activity.

This is what I am thinking is the best way:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuoZe...elated&search=

Is it me or in the video, does he double clutch on the second shift (and single on the first)?
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