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Old 12-15-2006 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 'ringmeister
$16,900? yes i'm sure you feel it...in the ***.
Nice.

I forget sometimes how fortunate I've been so early in life. I try to keep a low profile but things like $16,900 for motor work is not a big deal.

I wish the same for you... and more.
Old 12-15-2006 | 12:13 PM
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Sure it is costly...it's a Porsche, would you different.

X51 is a totally engineered solution from the inside out.

Not some un-engineered aftermarket add-on.

Old 12-15-2006 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ELUSIVE
I personally don't think it's silly at all. In fact, it's a very simple concept of cost/benefit analysis. That I believe is rational!
I wonder if people go to Andial and compare the dollar they spend vs. what they could have bought from RUF?

You missed my point, does Porsche charge too much for what you get, yes. Buy a racecar from Porsche and deal with Porsche Motorsports, then you understand why I said what I did. You can't justify it... Aftermarket is always going to less than PCNA, especially when you buy equipment or you service your car.
Old 12-15-2006 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ELUSIVE
For $16,900 for the powerkit I would expect far more.
That's just one week's stay at the Four Seasons Maui from Christmas to New Year's Day.
Old 12-15-2006 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyNarcosis
That's just one week's stay at the Four Seasons Maui from Christmas to New Years.
Well that's more like it.
Old 12-15-2006 | 12:45 PM
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Nothing makes sense about ordering a Porsche when you look at it from a financial perspective. It has nothing to do with sound financial planning, etc. It's something else. If I find that I have $15,000 sitting around in the near future my dealership may get a call to put it in. I'm fortunate to already have the PSE, so I may not hear much of a difference, but I will always SEE the difference when I open up the engine compartment. As someone mentioned earlier about wishing for the PCCBs,--I DID get those and they are incredible. If we can all look past the initial sticker shock you may find that some of these things are a bargain. Imagine not having to buy another rotor again. As an American, I'm lucky to live in a country where the price of a Porsche 911 isn't so severe that I would have to attempt a grey market importation. Most Porsche 'Phanatics' pay a lot more for this capability than we do. The same with fuel. I'm paying $2.89 for premium today in SoCal. But it's a bargain compared to the $7.00 I paid in Cernobbio this summer.
Old 12-15-2006 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MJones
Sure it is costly...it's a Porsche, would you different.

X51 is a totally engineered solution from the inside out.

Not some un-engineered aftermarket add-on.


As a reminder for those out of the know... X51 includes PSE, carbon airbox, modified engine mapping, sand cast aluminum intake manifold (vs. plastic), larger throttle body (82mm vs. 78mm if I remember correctly), modified cylinder heads with stronger exhaust springs, larger exhast ports, larger/individual pipe exhaust headers (vs. 3 into 1 on the S), and a 200 rpm higher rev limit.

There is a big torque bump low in the rev range, and most of the 26 horsepower is at the very top of the range. I searched for the Porsche X51 power chart and couldn't find it online although I've seen it posted here before.

But, just to satisfy everyone's curiousity, I'm going to dyno my car and post the results. Not sure I've seen an X51 dyno chart on the web so it'll be interesting to see how it pulls.

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Originally Posted by H20NOO
As a reminder for those out of the know... X51 includes PSE, carbon airbox, modified engine mapping, sand cast aluminum intake manifold (vs. plastic), larger throttle body (82mm vs. 78mm if I remember correctly), modified cylinder heads with stronger exhaust springs, larger exhast ports, larger/individual pipe exhaust headers (vs. 3 into 1 on the S), and a 200 rpm higher rev limit.

There is a big torque bump low in the rev range, and most of the 26 horsepower is at the very top of the range. I searched for the Porsche X51 power chart and couldn't find it online although I've seen it posted here before.

But, just to satisfy everyone's curiousity, I'm going to dyno my car and post the results. Not sure I've seen an X51 dyno chart on the web so it'll be interesting to see how it pulls.

MC
Cool! Thanks. Here's the powerband graphic -

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Old 12-15-2006 | 11:22 PM
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I hadn't seen that graph before...thanks for posting it.

Peak torque may not be up much (and at higher RPM), but the total amount between the lines is substantial, and both HP and torque are equal to or higher throughout the rev band...very impressive.




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