997 - what happens next....?
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Just taken delivery of 997 C2S and so far fantastic.
But one question; on long, sweeping (fast) corners, when I press on, the front (natch) begins to feel very light and everything is telling me "understeer, understeer!". So what happens next? Does it understeer into the bushes or does technology intervene? How will I know?
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But one question; on long, sweeping (fast) corners, when I press on, the front (natch) begins to feel very light and everything is telling me "understeer, understeer!". So what happens next? Does it understeer into the bushes or does technology intervene? How will I know?
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nick
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just dont slam the brakes
the front is light, feels light, takes a bit of getting used to if its your first 911. Highly suggest a Porsche driving school / event on the track where you can reach the limits and recognize them as such.
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Go buy a case of bottled water, and toss it in the front trunk.
I used to notice a difference when I had a C2 Cab and was hauling water, that this problem went away.
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With the C4S Cab I don't have that problem, and it's a good thing since I can barely get a bottle of water in that front trunk now!
I used to notice a difference when I had a C2 Cab and was hauling water, that this problem went away.
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With the C4S Cab I don't have that problem, and it's a good thing since I can barely get a bottle of water in that front trunk now!
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I did the same as Eric did.....packed a couple of sandbags in the trunk and the car handled fantastic.....after I lowered the P and it handles fine now...so sandbags or lowering.....
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2 options:
- Cure the understeer with oversteer = more throttle while cornering but you better be skilled doing this![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
- Lift off throtle, balance the car = more neutral and voila exit your corner!
Understeer is the safest option for auto manufacturer as it goes with our natural tendency to lift off when cars understeer.
This car requires a bit more skill to drive but is very rewarding when done well. Be safe out there!
- Cure the understeer with oversteer = more throttle while cornering but you better be skilled doing this
![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
- Lift off throtle, balance the car = more neutral and voila exit your corner!
Understeer is the safest option for auto manufacturer as it goes with our natural tendency to lift off when cars understeer.
This car requires a bit more skill to drive but is very rewarding when done well. Be safe out there!
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Nick - do you own a Porter Cable polisher? You'll need one to buff out the scratches the bushes leave in your paint. Ditto on gmoney99's comment about a Porsche driving school / event on the track.
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Nick - do you own a Porter Cable polisher? You'll need one to buff out the scratches the bushes leave in your paint.
Seriously, ditto on gmoney99's comment about a Porsche driving school / event on the track.
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Seriously, ditto on gmoney99's comment about a Porsche driving school / event on the track.
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I'm not suggesting this, but I'll ease up just a bit and then push it as I begin the exit and the rear slides out just a bit and falls in line the the front quickly. You must practice this OFF-THE STREET.
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Sign-up and attend PDE
You will have a great time and learn a whole bunch about vehicle dynamics, and the friction circle.
The more streering input...the less throtle you can give.
Imagine a string attached between the steering wheel and your right foot.
The more you turn the wheel - the less you can depress the go pedal.
The accelerator pedal is a rehostat not an on / off switch!
Keep in mind:
Understeer is when you´re scared...
Oversteer is when your passengers are scared
You will have a great time and learn a whole bunch about vehicle dynamics, and the friction circle.
The more streering input...the less throtle you can give.
Imagine a string attached between the steering wheel and your right foot.
The more you turn the wheel - the less you can depress the go pedal.
The accelerator pedal is a rehostat not an on / off switch!
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Keep in mind:
Understeer is when you´re scared...
Oversteer is when your passengers are scared
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stock 997 does understeer A LOT.
have the car aligned to kill some of it.
then goto PDC or some driving lessons, you can play with the throttle to rotate the car in long fast sweeping corners, once you rotoated it enough, more throttle and repeat. but i would not try this on public roads.
have the car aligned to kill some of it.
then goto PDC or some driving lessons, you can play with the throttle to rotate the car in long fast sweeping corners, once you rotoated it enough, more throttle and repeat. but i would not try this on public roads.
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Originally Posted by draxa
Just taken delivery of 997 C2S and so far fantastic.
But one question; on long, sweeping (fast) corners, when I press on, the front (natch) begins to feel very light and everything is telling me "understeer, understeer!". So what happens next? Does it understeer into the bushes or does technology intervene? How will I know?
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nick
But one question; on long, sweeping (fast) corners, when I press on, the front (natch) begins to feel very light and everything is telling me "understeer, understeer!". So what happens next? Does it understeer into the bushes or does technology intervene? How will I know?
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nick
Give us a little background on your Porsche history. How many 911s have you owned before, and from what generations.
Porsches have always been a little squirrely to drive in the corners and once you understand how they work you can let that work for you.