I'm working up to ordering my car and the last decision is to go or not with Porsche Ceramic Composite Brakes.

I plan to run some Autocross and time trials with it -- so anybody's comments on this option is appreciated.

Cost is no an issue - although the dealer tells me that brake pads are about the same as conventional. Rotors are another story. I've seen comments about no brake dust so that's a plus,

Thanks

 

i'd say it's 95% dust free for street driving. the difference is huge compare to steel brake. at least i feel it. if the cost is not an issue then get it for sure.

 

Based on my experience with PCCB on my GT2, they make more dust than regular rotors the holes used to get plugged with the stuff! Check the cost of a replacement rotor before you say cost is not object.

 

Awesome brakes. I have never noticed any brake dust, I think they are virtually dust free. The GT2 version used a different ceramic composite and there were lots of complaints about premature failure. Hopefully, the new generation has fixed that problem. However, I hope I never ever have to replace a rotor - they are outrageously expensive.

 

Stay away from the unless you are willing to pay $4500 per rotor. Porsche will FU*ck you on this. I am in the process of going through our A.G. office on this issue. A long story, but they do not stand behind this option.

Unless you are a Professional driver you will not be able to get the benfit out of this option. As soon as you rotor starts to show signs of wear your pads go fast and the dust is bad. The rotors do not wear the same as irons. The surface becaome rough (like an emory board) and files the pads.

If money is not an issue and you want the most high tech then go for it. If you move forward with it start putting money away. Mine lasted twice as long as irons at 10 times the cost.

Also, I ask the PCA about this and was told run away from PCCB if you are going to do anything other the drive like miss daisy.

 

I love them. After having them, I don't think I'd ever want to go without again. Absolutely rock solid ALL the time, even after abuse.

 

http://www.stuttgart9.co.uk/upload/index.php?

search this site for feedback. Gen 2 are expected to be better however, Porsche stated that the gen 1 was to last the life of the car at >100k. Again if you have the founds to replace them when they wear I only got 15,000 miles on mine. Then go for it. They will never replace them under warrenty.

 

They are phenominal!!!
Pedal feel is solid!

PDE's 997S cars were equiped with them and logged approx 8,000 track miles at Barber Motorsports Park (a big Braking track). They had no problems except pad changes, the rotors looked NEW.

I would go for them!!!
I wish I had them now.

 

There was a good "review" on them in Christophorus a few issues back; explained alot.

I'd get them (would have gotten them) if they were about half the current price. Just for the safety and the dust free effects. Us$8K is a bit much, I mean 10 percent of the car's MSRP!

 

I agree with MJones (Mr. PDE) PCCB's rock. The short time at PDE in the "S" with PCCB's convinced me that I will have them on my next P-car.

 

Geez! This is amazing what you say. WOW. Thanks for the heads up. Will keep a critical eye on PCCB commentary. WOW!

 

MMD - do a search for PCCB on the GT2/3 forum. GT2 came standard with Gen 1 PCCB and everyone who tracked their cars had them fail in short order. Porsche does not cover rotors on the warranty. Replacements cost (at the time) 8,500 bucks EACH. All of us switched to GT3 steel brakes. There are Gt3 owners who suffered the same problem, at least they were optional on the 3 and the guys in the know all chose steel.

PDE cars are sold after 8000 miles and are probably not driven as hard as cars owned by experienced track drivers. Caveat Emptor. The Gen 2 brakes may be better but knowing what they cost to replace I would stay far away if you intend to track your car. Seeing a bill for over thirty thou to replace 4 rotors ain't fun.

 

Bob is spot on. The dealer will get the car may or may not tell you the car was a PDE. The rotors will Look good because they do not wear like irons with that little lip at the edge. The new owner drives away an perhaps 5,000-15,000 miles later the rotors start to go. Porsche will not cover them. You tthe customer will have to replace them $4,500 each.
If one buy a PDE make sure the rotors are new as part of the deal.

 

I think I'd spend that kind of money on upgraded aftermarket brake componets etc, than PCCB. You could build a pretty sweet setup for less than PCCB. But then again, PCCB has a wicked high "cool" factor.

Matt

 

Faced with the prospect of spending thousands of dollars on replacing PCCB why not just switch to steel rotors if they fail prematurely and out of warrantee? That's what I would do.