If money is NOT an issue then I would get them and see what you think about em. Then if they do indeed go and you suffer a MI when faced with the rotor replacement bill then switch to steel.

 

WOW, again. Thanks Bob.

 

I have an ’05 launch car and it has been worth it to have the ceramics. The braking is incredible and with 27,000 miles, the head tech at my dealer says the rotors look brand new.

Now, in terms of the expensive replacement costs, yes, it is expensive, but it seems to balance out with how long the rotors last for normal, every day street driving. However, when it’s time to replace my ceramic rotors I plan to switch to normal turbo brakes. I checked with a dealer how much it would cost to switch over to turbo rotors and pads etc., and they quoted me just over $2,600. So, that’s my plan when the time comes.

If I ordered the car today, I would just get the normal turbo brakes, but I must say it has been fun and worth it.

Since my rotors do look new (due to simple every day driving and not tracking), I wonder how the cost will break down (in comparison to turbo rotors) when it comes time to actually replace them?

 

It's apparent that the complainers in this thread all had the first generation PCCB. Current users appear a lot happier. Despite the $8000 price they are a fabulous brake from everything I read (ordered on my 997S Cab) and are a bargain compared to what Ferrari is charging for the same brake on their models.

Dan

 

I may have to agree. The article in one of the magazines also pointed out the newer version over the old. I too have them ordered for my C2S arriving in late April or May with an Aero Kit as well.

As for replacement costs, well... I'll cross that bridge when I come to it and hopefully not for a very long time!

Everyone that has ver2 of the PCCB's seem very happy with them and all agree that it was a good choice.

Regards,
Deanski

 

cant you change to reg brakes if the replacement cost is to high?? crg

 

Edgy - complainers? When you buy a GT2 for 200K which comes with PCCB that demolish themselves in one summer of track and discover that you are expected to pay 32K for a replacement set, you call that complaining?

Having had the PCCB and then switched to GT3 steel brakes, I can assure you from personal experience that the GT3 brakes are every bit as good as the PCCB.

On a street driven car, rotors should last about 50,000 miles. A GT3 motorsports rotor (like the ones on the race cars) costs 300 bucks. You do the math.

To those contemplating PCCB, I suggest you think about GT3 brakes - the same ones as fitted to the race cars. It will cost less than the PCCB option.

Regards,

 

Excellent comment! This is what I will do too. But I'm hoping that my PCCB will last the lifetime of my 997S.
Agree with all PCCB owners, these brakes give you lots of confident except one time I drove it right after I washed the car, it will not stop at all for half a block and it was scary...

 

I have noticed (as have other RL'ers) that when driving in the rain and not braking for a while, the first time you apply the brakes there is a scary moment before the brakes bite - not something I have noticed previously with steel brakes. Now I brake lightly once in a while (in the rain) to keep the brakes warm.

 

I have noted the same thing.

 

Will it work? I don't think so because the calipers are different. The thickness of rotors is different. You'd have to change the calipers too (I guess). Actually, it sounds like a set of new steel rotors and calipers would be cheaper than ONE ceramic rotor?!

 

MMD, the front calipers are the same. The rears are different so alot of folks just keep the rear PCCB disk or change the caliper to the smaller one. There's only one place that I know of that sells rear steels that fit, JZ MachTech in England.

My experience with the PCCB II is very positive. I don't track the car too much, but when I do, the brakes are unbelivable. No problems at all so far with one year elapsing since I baught the turbo S. Someone said that there's no brake dust with PCCB? On the street yes, but my wheels had an expensive coating of brake dust after the track. I swear I could almost see $$$ flying around everytime I press these brakes.

 

MMD:It will work. There are aftermarket suppliers with straight out swaps for a perfect fit. No need to change that calipers. About $1250 gets you 4 new rotors (slotted or drilled)as apposed to $4,500 for a single Porsche PCCS.

 

So what I'm seeing here is lot's of positive comments on ceramics . . until replacement rotors are due.
Then you swap the rotors for steel and I assume pads made especially for the steel rotors.
One advantage I see with this is that you now have a 6 piston front calipers rather than the stock 4 piston on the fronts - plus the yellow factor,
Is there any difference in the PCCB and stock calipers on the rear, other than the color?
I read on the GT forum about lots of brake noise until you do a dozen panic stops to condition them. is that for both the Gen. 1 & 2?

 

Devek in Redwood City Ca has a line on the rears. Keep stock PCCB hats replace ceramic with irons. Then put slotted 360mm irons on front. You can choose between floating or not.