Sunroof delete 997...
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So says PCNA:
"A sunroof delete option for the 997 Coupe series will not be available for the life
span of the vehicle. Federal occupant crash regulations for sunroof versus non-
sunroof vehicles and the resultant engineering expense to meet those regulations
make this option financially non-viable, for the small number of vehicles configured."
"A sunroof delete option for the 997 Coupe series will not be available for the life
span of the vehicle. Federal occupant crash regulations for sunroof versus non-
sunroof vehicles and the resultant engineering expense to meet those regulations
make this option financially non-viable, for the small number of vehicles configured."
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Originally Posted by MJones
Sunroof delete is NOT available in US for the 997 model line
Why the F all new Porsches need to be pimped out?!!
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Originally Posted by MJones
So says PCNA:
"A sunroof delete option for the 997 Coupe series will not be available for the life
span of the vehicle. Federal occupant crash regulations for sunroof versus non-
sunroof vehicles and the resultant engineering expense to meet those regulations
make this option financially non-viable, for the small number of vehicles configured."
"A sunroof delete option for the 997 Coupe series will not be available for the life
span of the vehicle. Federal occupant crash regulations for sunroof versus non-
sunroof vehicles and the resultant engineering expense to meet those regulations
make this option financially non-viable, for the small number of vehicles configured."
Yeah everybody knows that ELIMINATING sunroof can be much more dangerous than a car with a hole cut in the top with a sunroof panel stuck in.
You have to crash test a solid one-piece NON-sunroof monocoque to make sure it is as safe as one with a hole cut in it.
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Originally Posted by JasonAndreas
Why?
Morons at NHTSA needs justification for their jobs eventhough they appear to have their head up their rears.
I can only hope that the 997 GT2 will come with no sunroof standard when I am ready to place my order.
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From: Back in the OC
Originally Posted by synergy
Just curios - why would you not want your sun roof?
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Originally Posted by OCBen
For detailing purposes I prefer a smooth roof without the felt lining surrounding the lid that easily gets contaminated with polishes and waxes. For this reason alone I would opt for sunroof delete.
use a damp toothbrush followed by a dry clean rag to get the wax out. Use this technique in all seams, not only the "felt" covered ones.
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Originally Posted by stuka
Morons at NHTSA needs justification for their jobs eventhough they appear to have their head up their rears.
Now if we could just get rid of the smog exemption rules for older cars and up the CAFE requirements.
--sunroof'less in Massachusetts
Last edited by JasonAndreas; Jun 27, 2005 at 04:55 PM.
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I don't understand what the deal is...Europeans get no sunroof, all previous 911 series could be sunroof delete. Is this Porsche's way of saving a few $? I don't buy it! Very angry. The 997 is the first 911 coupe that is nearly roomy enough for a tall guy to be comfortable...and I can't get sunroof delete!
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p.s. - so much for the 911's reputation of being a highly customizable race car for the street... I could configure a purple car with red interior and white seats and all the whistles, but can't get sunroof delete. Ok, I'm done whining.
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Please people don't take this personally but to me just the fact that someone asks "why would you not want your sunroof?" tells a lot about today's Porsche buyers here in states (and maybe in everywhere) and why PCNA doesn't even offer to delete it.
To me it's absolutely wrong, utterly useless "bling bling" item in a sportscar.
I know it's nice to have and drive it open in a nice weather for a lot of people and everyone can order it if they want it but for someone like me who wants their sportscar without gimmics and as light (=sporty) as possible, not even offering to delete it (fact that it's "delete option" rather than "option" IMO is wrong in a sportscar) is just wrong and short sighted.
To me it's absolutely wrong, utterly useless "bling bling" item in a sportscar.
I know it's nice to have and drive it open in a nice weather for a lot of people and everyone can order it if they want it but for someone like me who wants their sportscar without gimmics and as light (=sporty) as possible, not even offering to delete it (fact that it's "delete option" rather than "option" IMO is wrong in a sportscar) is just wrong and short sighted.
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Originally Posted by Flying Finn
To me it's absolutely wrong, utterly useless "bling bling" item in a sportscar.
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Originally Posted by MMD
It's a GT, right? Got nav, AC, stereo, etc., from that persepctive (which is Porsches philosophy for the 911) sunroof is "normal" for a GT coupe. I dunno... .
I'm (secretly) thinking Porsche is planning Cayman to take 911's "role" as a sportscar and give 911 totally a GT role... Don't tell anyone though...
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Originally Posted by Flying Finn
I know I know, it's obvious 911 is slipping more and more towards GT, away from sportscar but please Porsche, why force all these "essential GT items" to Porsche customers?
Oh yeah, thanks for the reminder FF, when I saw the Nav unit in the new 997 and found out it was NOT optional I nearly flipped. right, I get what youre saying!!!
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Originally Posted by Flying Finn
Please people don't take this personally but to me just the fact that someone asks "why would you not want your sunroof?" tells a lot about today's Porsche buyers here in states (and maybe in everywhere) and why PCNA doesn't even offer to delete it.
To me it's absolutely wrong, utterly useless "bling bling" item in a sportscar.
I know it's nice to have and drive it open in a nice weather for a lot of people and everyone can order it if they want it but for someone like me who wants their sportscar without gimmics and as light (=sporty) as possible, not even offering to delete it (fact that it's "delete option" rather than "option" IMO is wrong in a sportscar) is just wrong and short sighted.
To me it's absolutely wrong, utterly useless "bling bling" item in a sportscar.
I know it's nice to have and drive it open in a nice weather for a lot of people and everyone can order it if they want it but for someone like me who wants their sportscar without gimmics and as light (=sporty) as possible, not even offering to delete it (fact that it's "delete option" rather than "option" IMO is wrong in a sportscar) is just wrong and short sighted.
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Originally Posted by MMD
when I saw the Nav unit in the new 997 and found out it was NOT optional I nearly flipped. right, I get what youre saying!!!
I had hopes of someday maybe trading the 993 in for a 997. Not now. I think I's only older Porsches for me.