Okay, anyone using the GSM phone???
#31
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Originally Posted by MJones
Alin2
Just wondering if the cards are different for a Tri-band phone vs standard...what kind do you have?
Have you tried a card from someone elses phone yet?
Just wondering if the cards are different for a Tri-band phone vs standard...what kind do you have?
Have you tried a card from someone elses phone yet?
I haven't had a chance to try another SIM card yet. I am not sure if the SIM cards are different for a triband phone. I just got a "free" phone from Cingular since I never intend to take the SIM card out of my 997...if I can get it to work...
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I am sorry just want to get this straight. You have the GSM module installed????? Mine has the face plate and the card slot but not the actual module that makes it all work. Did you get this retrofitted or did you get it this way from Germany, or do you actually have the module at all? Any info would be great because I have been trying to get this option for months now.
Thanks
Thanks
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Originally Posted by Weissy
I am sorry just want to get this straight. You have the GSM module installed????? Mine has the face plate and the card slot but not the actual module that makes it all work. Did you get this retrofitted or did you get it this way from Germany, or do you actually have the module at all? Any info would be great because I have been trying to get this option for months now.
Thanks
Thanks
I have the telephone module for PCM (option 666...the irony...) factory installed. Right now it's a $960 emergency phone to 911 as the SIM card is not being read correctly by the module. I'm hoping it's the SIM card and not the module...
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Originally Posted by alin2
Hi Weissy:
I have the telephone module for PCM (option 666...the irony...) factory installed. Right now it's a $960 emergency phone to 911 as the SIM card is not being read correctly by the module. I'm hoping it's the SIM card and not the module...
I have the telephone module for PCM (option 666...the irony...) factory installed. Right now it's a $960 emergency phone to 911 as the SIM card is not being read correctly by the module. I'm hoping it's the SIM card and not the module...
Maybe i'll take a spin down to Danbury Porsche today and see what they have to say..
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Originally Posted by Gary R.
It was a $960 option? As all(?) the equipment seems to be installed in my car I wonder what it will cost (and what ELSE I need to buy) for it to work.. Don't know that its worth much to me, especially since I have to either dedicate a phone number to the car (and leave the SIM in it) or dismantle my phone every time I get in..
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Gary,
Cingular and T-mobile (only GSM carriers in Chicago worth a darn) will not allow cloning a SIM card with the same telephone number. Sucks...
Cingular and T-mobile (only GSM carriers in Chicago worth a darn) will not allow cloning a SIM card with the same telephone number. Sucks...
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Originally Posted by alin2
Gary,
Cingular and T-mobile (only GSM carriers in Chicago worth a darn) will not allow cloning a SIM card with the same telephone number. Sucks...
Cingular and T-mobile (only GSM carriers in Chicago worth a darn) will not allow cloning a SIM card with the same telephone number. Sucks...
Could be moot anyway. I agree, adding $1K to my sale wouldn't have made any difference then, but now i'm more into spending on a Fabspeed exhaust, Cool Air, custom wheels, etc. etc. etc...
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Originally Posted by Gary R.
Wonder what happens with a lost/destroyed phone replacement if I want the same number?
Could be moot anyway. I agree, adding $1K to my sale wouldn't have made any difference then, but now i'm more into spending on a Fabspeed exhaust, Cool Air, custom wheels, etc. etc. etc...![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Could be moot anyway. I agree, adding $1K to my sale wouldn't have made any difference then, but now i'm more into spending on a Fabspeed exhaust, Cool Air, custom wheels, etc. etc. etc...
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I think if you lose or destroy the SIM, the network will make you purchase a new one ($25!) and reprogram your number to that SIM. Your old SIM will then not log onto the network properly.
Be sure to let us know what mods you choose. Me, I'm going to install a short shifter as soon as I get some extra $$$...
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by alin2
I highly agree that aftermarket mods like new wheels, etc are going to provide more pleasure than a handsfree telephone.
I think if you lose or destroy the SIM, the network will make you purchase a new one ($25!) and reprogram your number to that SIM. Your old SIM will then not log onto the network properly.
Be sure to let us know what mods you choose. Me, I'm going to install a short shifter as soon as I get some extra $$$...
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I think if you lose or destroy the SIM, the network will make you purchase a new one ($25!) and reprogram your number to that SIM. Your old SIM will then not log onto the network properly.
Be sure to let us know what mods you choose. Me, I'm going to install a short shifter as soon as I get some extra $$$...
Cheers!
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Okay an update...
1. My SIM card works fine in my Cingular phone and 2 other Cingular phones.
2. I programmed a PIN for my SIM card. When I install the SIM card the Cingular phones ask for the PIN and then it connects to the network in about 5 seconds.
3. An AT&T Wireless phone (although owned by Cingular!) will accept the SIM, ask for the PIN, but then displaies "wrong card" as the AT&T Wireless network is still not the same as the Cingular network.
4. My Porsche phone module still displays "checking card" and won't even ask for a PIN.
Therefore, it's not the SIM card, it's the Porsche phone module. Back to the dealer!!!
1. My SIM card works fine in my Cingular phone and 2 other Cingular phones.
2. I programmed a PIN for my SIM card. When I install the SIM card the Cingular phones ask for the PIN and then it connects to the network in about 5 seconds.
3. An AT&T Wireless phone (although owned by Cingular!) will accept the SIM, ask for the PIN, but then displaies "wrong card" as the AT&T Wireless network is still not the same as the Cingular network.
4. My Porsche phone module still displays "checking card" and won't even ask for a PIN.
Therefore, it's not the SIM card, it's the Porsche phone module. Back to the dealer!!!
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Let me throw in one more possibility...
"Standard" GSM tri-band phones run on EGSM 900 (USA), GSM 1800 (Europe) and GSM 1900 (Asia). I would imagine that the Porsche GSM phone works on the standard frequencies.
Cingular's GSM network (at least here in Washington, D.C./Northern Virginia) operates on GSM 850 (default), GSM 1800 and GSM 1900. (Note: GSM 850 is not a standard frequency and this is why there are Cingular-specific models of "tri-band" phones.) Depending on your geographic area, it is more than likely that only GSM 850 is available.
It is possible that when you insert your Cingular SIM card the Porsche phone is unable to connect to a network because EGSM 900, GSM 1800 and GSM 1900 are unavailable in your area.
I routinely travel to Europe which is why I went with T-Mobile since they use the standard frequencies. Yeah, it sucks that my cell reception overseas is much better than in my office but for the most part I am happy with T-Mobile's service.
Try installing a T-Mobile SIM card to see if that makes a difference. You may also try (if possible) to set the "preferred network" in your Cingular SIM card to either GSM 1800 or GSM 1900 (this may not be possible since you don't have a tri-band Cingular phone.)
Good luck,
"Standard" GSM tri-band phones run on EGSM 900 (USA), GSM 1800 (Europe) and GSM 1900 (Asia). I would imagine that the Porsche GSM phone works on the standard frequencies.
Cingular's GSM network (at least here in Washington, D.C./Northern Virginia) operates on GSM 850 (default), GSM 1800 and GSM 1900. (Note: GSM 850 is not a standard frequency and this is why there are Cingular-specific models of "tri-band" phones.) Depending on your geographic area, it is more than likely that only GSM 850 is available.
It is possible that when you insert your Cingular SIM card the Porsche phone is unable to connect to a network because EGSM 900, GSM 1800 and GSM 1900 are unavailable in your area.
I routinely travel to Europe which is why I went with T-Mobile since they use the standard frequencies. Yeah, it sucks that my cell reception overseas is much better than in my office but for the most part I am happy with T-Mobile's service.
Try installing a T-Mobile SIM card to see if that makes a difference. You may also try (if possible) to set the "preferred network" in your Cingular SIM card to either GSM 1800 or GSM 1900 (this may not be possible since you don't have a tri-band Cingular phone.)
Good luck,
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Originally Posted by alin2
Okay an update...
1. My SIM card works fine in my Cingular phone and 2 other Cingular phones.
2. I programmed a PIN for my SIM card. When I install the SIM card the Cingular phones ask for the PIN and then it connects to the network in about 5 seconds.
3. An AT&T Wireless phone (although owned by Cingular!) will accept the SIM, ask for the PIN, but then displaies "wrong card" as the AT&T Wireless network is still not the same as the Cingular network.
4. My Porsche phone module still displays "checking card" and won't even ask for a PIN.
Therefore, it's not the SIM card, it's the Porsche phone module. Back to the dealer!!!
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1. My SIM card works fine in my Cingular phone and 2 other Cingular phones.
2. I programmed a PIN for my SIM card. When I install the SIM card the Cingular phones ask for the PIN and then it connects to the network in about 5 seconds.
3. An AT&T Wireless phone (although owned by Cingular!) will accept the SIM, ask for the PIN, but then displaies "wrong card" as the AT&T Wireless network is still not the same as the Cingular network.
4. My Porsche phone module still displays "checking card" and won't even ask for a PIN.
Therefore, it's not the SIM card, it's the Porsche phone module. Back to the dealer!!!
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Did you try any of the other phones SIM cards in your car besides your own?
Just to see if no other SIM cards work
#44
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Originally Posted by programmatore
Let me throw in one more possibility...
"Standard" GSM tri-band phones run on EGSM 900 (USA), GSM 1800 (Europe) and GSM 1900 (Asia). I would imagine that the Porsche GSM phone works on the standard frequencies.
Cingular's GSM network (at least here in Washington, D.C./Northern Virginia) operates on GSM 850 (default), GSM 1800 and GSM 1900. (Note: GSM 850 is not a standard frequency and this is why there are Cingular-specific models of "tri-band" phones.) Depending on your geographic area, it is more than likely that only GSM 850 is available.
It is possible that when you insert your Cingular SIM card the Porsche phone is unable to connect to a network because EGSM 900, GSM 1800 and GSM 1900 are unavailable in your area.
I routinely travel to Europe which is why I went with T-Mobile since they use the standard frequencies. Yeah, it sucks that my cell reception overseas is much better than in my office but for the most part I am happy with T-Mobile's service.
Try installing a T-Mobile SIM card to see if that makes a difference. You may also try (if possible) to set the "preferred network" in your Cingular SIM card to either GSM 1800 or GSM 1900 (this may not be possible since you don't have a tri-band Cingular phone.)
Good luck,
"Standard" GSM tri-band phones run on EGSM 900 (USA), GSM 1800 (Europe) and GSM 1900 (Asia). I would imagine that the Porsche GSM phone works on the standard frequencies.
Cingular's GSM network (at least here in Washington, D.C./Northern Virginia) operates on GSM 850 (default), GSM 1800 and GSM 1900. (Note: GSM 850 is not a standard frequency and this is why there are Cingular-specific models of "tri-band" phones.) Depending on your geographic area, it is more than likely that only GSM 850 is available.
It is possible that when you insert your Cingular SIM card the Porsche phone is unable to connect to a network because EGSM 900, GSM 1800 and GSM 1900 are unavailable in your area.
I routinely travel to Europe which is why I went with T-Mobile since they use the standard frequencies. Yeah, it sucks that my cell reception overseas is much better than in my office but for the most part I am happy with T-Mobile's service.
Try installing a T-Mobile SIM card to see if that makes a difference. You may also try (if possible) to set the "preferred network" in your Cingular SIM card to either GSM 1800 or GSM 1900 (this may not be possible since you don't have a tri-band Cingular phone.)
Good luck,
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Originally Posted by MJones
As an experiment:
Did you try any of the other phones SIM cards in your car besides your own?
Just to see if no other SIM cards work
Did you try any of the other phones SIM cards in your car besides your own?
Just to see if no other SIM cards work
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