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I see that when you take european delivery on a Cayenne ( even a 40k 6 cylinder Cayenne ) you get track time at the factory 2.5 mile track ... I see that when you take european delivery on a 997 you get no track time .... I guess now that the Cayenne is responsible for over half of Porsches sales they really go all the way for those customers . It would seem though the track would be for the 997 not an SUV .
Before taking delivery of your vehicle, explore the test track in one of the demonstration vehicles. The circuit itself is 2.5 miles in length, 40 feet in width, and is fully prepared for professional competition use. On each new lap, you’ll learn more about the car and its genuine Porsche handling and performance.
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Hey, you guys seem to suspect conspiracies in every dark corner.
Porsche has built a road track and an off-road track at their Leipzig facility. Since the Cayenne is built in Leipzig, that's where you will pick up your vehicle. The test track is about 100 yards away, so it's a quick walk over there and you have your fun.
The 911 is built in Zuffenhausen (Stuttgart). The road track at Weissach is only 15 miles away, but since Weissach is also the R&D facility nobody is allowed inside the fence.
If you feel that you have to drive on Porsche roads, I am sure a Leipzig experience can be organized for 911 customers.
Porsche has built a road track and an off-road track at their Leipzig facility. Since the Cayenne is built in Leipzig, that's where you will pick up your vehicle. The test track is about 100 yards away, so it's a quick walk over there and you have your fun.
The 911 is built in Zuffenhausen (Stuttgart). The road track at Weissach is only 15 miles away, but since Weissach is also the R&D facility nobody is allowed inside the fence.
If you feel that you have to drive on Porsche roads, I am sure a Leipzig experience can be organized for 911 customers.
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You can take delivery of your 911 and then drive to Leipzig and attend PDE type driving courses available there.
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Thanks MJones ... you need to do it on the dates available , which is kind of like the Grand Tour program .. that is why I was surprised that it comes automatically with the Cayenne . And Stef the last time I did European delivery I asked If I could go on the track in my new car or one of Porsches cars and they told me no ... I wonder if you do European delivery on a CGT the Cayenne's could make room for you .
http://www2.us.porsche.com/english/u...ch/default.htm
http://www2.us.porsche.com/english/u...of/default.htm
http://www.porschedriving.com/course_schedule.asp
http://www2.us.porsche.com/english/u...ch/default.htm
http://www2.us.porsche.com/english/u...of/default.htm
http://www.porschedriving.com/course_schedule.asp
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Originally Posted by Sobe
And Stef the last time I did European delivery I asked If I could go on the track in my new car or one of Porsches cars and they told me no ... I wonder if you do European delivery on a CGT the Cayenne's could make room for you .
However, the Carrera GT's delivery is in Leipzig, so you will get your laps there. A few weeks ago I had to make a 987 presentation in Leipzig and had the opportunity for a few C-GT passenger laps around the track. I don't care for the usual tourist-safe pace and thought that I will propably never again have the opportunity to experience a C-GT driven in anger, so I hopped in with the words "impress me". Needless to say, I was thoroughly impressed!
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Thanks Stef .... I just remember them telling me how off limits the track was and now I read about the Cayenne folks getting to use the track ... so there are many tracks that Porsche uses ... Barber Motorsports Park track for Porsche school .... track at Weissach off limits ... and track at Leipzig where the Cayennes are ... very helpful ... maybe the thing to do is just head to Nurburing when you pick up a car . I did that last time but was afraid to drive the track ... was told at the factory that the tourist delivery insurance would not cover the car on the track there , is that true . Thanks again for you feedback .
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Sorry, this is a bit off topic but I just wanted to comment that it is a shame that Porsche's Euro Delivery program pales in comparison to Mecedes' Euro Delivery Program.
First of all, you have to pay for the Porsche Euro Delivery "option." Mercedes actually gives you a discount (a couple of thousand bucks) when you take advantage of Euro Delivery! In addition, Mercedes handles the VAT deposit for you. In Porsche's program you have to front the $10,000 VAT deposit.
The Mercedes Euro Delivery program also gives you a tour of the Mercedes factory and museum in Stuttgart and a voucher for a free lunch at their restaurant.
Finally, and this is probably the best part of the program, you are given 3 nights at 4- or 5-star hotels of your choice (they have a nice list of hotels)! I was actually living in Rome at the time and took Euro Delivery of an SLK so that I had a car to drive while I was there. I booked 2 nights at the Hotel Bayerischer hof in Munich and 1 night at Hotel Zur Tenne in Kitzbuhel -- 3 nights at these hotels would've easily cost $800! I had a great drive from Stuttgart to Rome!
Of course as soon as I got the SLK back to the US I traded it in for a 996 -- but that's another story.
First of all, you have to pay for the Porsche Euro Delivery "option." Mercedes actually gives you a discount (a couple of thousand bucks) when you take advantage of Euro Delivery! In addition, Mercedes handles the VAT deposit for you. In Porsche's program you have to front the $10,000 VAT deposit.
The Mercedes Euro Delivery program also gives you a tour of the Mercedes factory and museum in Stuttgart and a voucher for a free lunch at their restaurant.
Finally, and this is probably the best part of the program, you are given 3 nights at 4- or 5-star hotels of your choice (they have a nice list of hotels)! I was actually living in Rome at the time and took Euro Delivery of an SLK so that I had a car to drive while I was there. I booked 2 nights at the Hotel Bayerischer hof in Munich and 1 night at Hotel Zur Tenne in Kitzbuhel -- 3 nights at these hotels would've easily cost $800! I had a great drive from Stuttgart to Rome!
Of course as soon as I got the SLK back to the US I traded it in for a 996 -- but that's another story.
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Originally Posted by Sobe
maybe the thing to do is just head to Nurburgring when you pick up a car . I did that last time but was afraid to drive the track ... was told at the factory that the tourist delivery insurance would not cover the car on the track there , is that true?
* The engine is new and don't want to be trashed.
* It is an extremely dangerous track for the newcomers, no run-off areas. I spend a lot of time on the Nürburgring and in the summer virtually every weekend somebody have to be airlifted out of the place, have on 2 occasions seen people die right in front of me.
* Even if you start slow, it is easy to get "sucked in" when everybody speed by you. I was passenger in a Rennlist member's car (won't say who, but you know who you are David) when that happened and he wrecked a nice 911 into the guard rails.
* There are several locals who are real fast with their sh*tbag Opels etc. Turn up with your Porsche and you will be another statistic on their record of fast cars that they whup-assed. We don't want to give them that pleasure, do we?
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Originally Posted by programmatore
Sorry, this is a bit off topic but I just wanted to comment that it is a shame that Porsche's Euro Delivery program pales in comparison to Mecedes' Euro Delivery Program.
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
It must've been a while ago that you took ED of your MB. Their program is nowhere near as comprehensive as it once was, and none of the interesting AMG models are eligible.
