Best options for Carplay
05-08-2024, 11:18 AM
#46
As soon as my car is back from the paint shop, I am getting this installed: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/03...f?v=1701103784
05-08-2024, 11:19 AM
#47
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myw (05-08-2024)
05-08-2024, 11:48 AM
#48
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When I ordered mine from NM Auto they asked for VIN and did some programming so the camera comes on when shifting into reverse in my manual car.
05-08-2024, 11:59 AM
#49
05-08-2024, 12:38 PM
#50
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It's crazy that you have to provide the VIN number to get the module working with the car. It should just work no matter what kind of transmission you have. Everything should be included as a basic requirement, whether it's manual or automatic. This is exactly what happens when you buy something made in China. If something isn't programmed right, you have to send it back for replacement. It's not supposed to be this way it's not an engine or transmission part
As to the why, I dunno.
This the way Unichip built their box and the consumer can decide to go with a unit that switches the reverse camera on with CanBus instead of a reverse signal wire splice.
We live in a free market society.
This seems reasonable to me but if it’s not reasonable to you, don’t buy their solution.
As an example my SmartTop Module is programmable at home, to give my car horn beeps when locking, pass side mirror dip on reverse and one touch up on the passenger side window.
On that module you have to program the module at home to select which features you want and even customize the features.
As an example if you want the horn beep upon locking, you select Option 3 and move the selection from 0 to 1, in effect programming the box to find the signal on CanBus and modify the action of the car.
I am guessing Unichip/9XX/NM Auto have a software suite to code each box to read signals, there might be a chance that Unichip doesn’t want their software floating around or users to make changes. Who knows the why.
As I stated in the other thread, 9XX and NM Automotive aren’t having reported issues on here with any regularity and not all of these CarPlay boxes operate the same.
In your worst case scenario of the box being accidentally being programmed incorrectly, I am guessing a simple email to NM Automotive saying “Hey Nick, the reverse isn’t working” and he could ship a new box or reprogram the one you have after shipping it back.
My iPhone and Apple Watch are built in China, yet I don’t have to deal with “China”, I deal with Apple if something isn’t right or breaks.
This would be the same.
Last edited by ATX_Native; 05-08-2024 at 12:39 PM.
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MKTO (06-20-2024)
05-08-2024, 12:49 PM
#51
You don’t buy the Unichip boxes directly from China, you buy them from Unichip, NM Auto or 9XX.
As to the why, I dunno.
This the way Unichip built their box and the consumer can decide to go with a unit that switches the reverse camera on with CanBus instead of a reverse signal wire splice.
We live in a free market society.
This seems reasonable to me but if it’s not reasonable to you, don’t buy their solution.
As an example my SmartTop Module is programmable at home, to give my car horn beeps when locking, pass side mirror dip on reverse and one touch up on the passenger side window.
On that module you have to program the module at home to select which features you want and even customize the features.
As an example if you want the horn beep upon locking, you select Option 3 and move the selection from 0 to 1, in effect programming the box to find the signal on CanBus and modify the action of the car.
I am guessing Unichip/9XX/NM Auto have a software suite to code each box to read signals, there might be a chance that Unichip doesn’t want their software floating around or users to make changes. Who knows the why.
As I stated in the other thread, 9XX and NM Automotive aren’t having reported issues on here with any regularity and not all of these CarPlay boxes operate the same.
In your worst case scenario of the box being accidentally being programmed incorrectly, I am guessing a simple email to NM Automotive saying “Hey Nick, the reverse isn’t working” and he could ship a new box or reprogram the one you have after shipping it back.
My iPhone and Apple Watch are built in China, yet I don’t have to deal with “China”, I deal with Apple if something isn’t right or breaks.
This would be the same.
As to the why, I dunno.
This the way Unichip built their box and the consumer can decide to go with a unit that switches the reverse camera on with CanBus instead of a reverse signal wire splice.
We live in a free market society.
This seems reasonable to me but if it’s not reasonable to you, don’t buy their solution.
As an example my SmartTop Module is programmable at home, to give my car horn beeps when locking, pass side mirror dip on reverse and one touch up on the passenger side window.
On that module you have to program the module at home to select which features you want and even customize the features.
As an example if you want the horn beep upon locking, you select Option 3 and move the selection from 0 to 1, in effect programming the box to find the signal on CanBus and modify the action of the car.
I am guessing Unichip/9XX/NM Auto have a software suite to code each box to read signals, there might be a chance that Unichip doesn’t want their software floating around or users to make changes. Who knows the why.
As I stated in the other thread, 9XX and NM Automotive aren’t having reported issues on here with any regularity and not all of these CarPlay boxes operate the same.
In your worst case scenario of the box being accidentally being programmed incorrectly, I am guessing a simple email to NM Automotive saying “Hey Nick, the reverse isn’t working” and he could ship a new box or reprogram the one you have after shipping it back.
My iPhone and Apple Watch are built in China, yet I don’t have to deal with “China”, I deal with Apple if something isn’t right or breaks.
This would be the same.
05-08-2024, 01:05 PM
#52
Rennlist Member
Your iPhone and Apple Watch, they're made over in China, Like, at top factories using only original components selected by Apple . But here's the thing, a lot of those carplay interface They're put together with cheap parts that don't hold up well. And guess who ends up paying for it? Us, the consumers. We're shelling out twice or even three times for stuff that barely lasts. Like, you're lucky if you get 18 months out of 'em, some don't even make it past six. And why's that? It's those low-quality components inside, they're just not good quality.
9XX is a paid vendor here and has been installing the Unichip units for years in US Customer cars.
Seems a bit reckless to bash the product that 9XX sells and installs without any proof of your claims with respect the the product he sells and installs.
On top of this you have no direct hands on experience with any of these boxes and as far as the Unichip boxes, you haven’t provided any proof of product failures, PCM bricking, issues with customer support, or shoddy design/implementation.
You’re just sitting up in the stands booing loudly as people are trying to talk about these things, it’s off putting.
The bonkers thing here is your company doesn’t offer a solution for our cars.
05-08-2024, 01:10 PM
#53
More China product bashing with no specific knowledge of the products you’re talking about.
9XX is a paid vendor here and has been installing the Unichip units for years in US Customer cars.
Seems a bit reckless to bash the product that 9XX sells and installs without any proof of your claims with respect the the product he sells and installs.
On top of this you have no direct hands on experience with any of these boxes and as far as the Unichip boxes, you haven’t provided any proof of product failures, PCM bricking, issues with customer support, or shoddy design/implementation.
You’re just sitting up in the stands booing loudly as people are trying to talk about these things, it’s off putting.
The bonkers thing here is your company doesn’t offer a solution for our cars.
9XX is a paid vendor here and has been installing the Unichip units for years in US Customer cars.
Seems a bit reckless to bash the product that 9XX sells and installs without any proof of your claims with respect the the product he sells and installs.
On top of this you have no direct hands on experience with any of these boxes and as far as the Unichip boxes, you haven’t provided any proof of product failures, PCM bricking, issues with customer support, or shoddy design/implementation.
You’re just sitting up in the stands booing loudly as people are trying to talk about these things, it’s off putting.
The bonkers thing here is your company doesn’t offer a solution for our cars.
05-08-2024, 02:15 PM
#54
Rennlist Member
I have explained this before in the other thread, 9XX is a business that travels around the US installing these Unichip boxes into customer cars along with a whole host of other upgrades like steering wheels and
He doesn’t sell the boxes to customers directly, instead he sells and installs these boxes on US customer cars along with other upgrades like steering wheels, rear cameras, etc.
https://9xx.com/collections/997-2-20...uto4-for-pcm30
https://rennlist.com/forums/members/189969-atwong1.html
He is well regarded on the forums as he has been at it for a long time.
In the other thread I said that the fact that he travels across the US sells/installs these with a warranty is pretty telling as to the quality of the Unichip boxes.
Also the lack of negative feedback on the Unichip boxes on Rennlist with hundreds of apes like myself installing these over the years is also an indicator.
I didn’t go this route since I didn’t want to wait for him to come around to Austin, so I bought the same Unichip box from NM Automotive in the UK and installed it on my own car using their instructions. Nick at NM Automotive sells and installs these boxes for customers in the UK as well.
Again not all boxes are created equal.
He doesn’t sell the boxes to customers directly, instead he sells and installs these boxes on US customer cars along with other upgrades like steering wheels, rear cameras, etc.
https://9xx.com/collections/997-2-20...uto4-for-pcm30
https://rennlist.com/forums/members/189969-atwong1.html
He is well regarded on the forums as he has been at it for a long time.
In the other thread I said that the fact that he travels across the US sells/installs these with a warranty is pretty telling as to the quality of the Unichip boxes.
Also the lack of negative feedback on the Unichip boxes on Rennlist with hundreds of apes like myself installing these over the years is also an indicator.
I didn’t go this route since I didn’t want to wait for him to come around to Austin, so I bought the same Unichip box from NM Automotive in the UK and installed it on my own car using their instructions. Nick at NM Automotive sells and installs these boxes for customers in the UK as well.
Again not all boxes are created equal.
05-08-2024, 05:18 PM
#55
I have explained this before in the other thread, 9XX is a business that travels around the US installing these Unichip boxes into customer cars along with a whole host of other upgrades like steering wheels and
He doesn’t sell the boxes to customers directly, instead he sells and installs these boxes on US customer cars along with other upgrades like steering wheels, rear cameras, etc.
https://9xx.com/collections/997-2-20...uto4-for-pcm30
https://rennlist.com/forums/members/189969-atwong1.html
He is well regarded on the forums as he has been at it for a long time.
In the other thread I said that the fact that he travels across the US sells/installs these with a warranty is pretty telling as to the quality of the Unichip boxes.
Also the lack of negative feedback on the Unichip boxes on Rennlist with hundreds of apes like myself installing these over the years is also an indicator.
I didn’t go this route since I didn’t want to wait for him to come around to Austin, so I bought the same Unichip box from NM Automotive in the UK and installed it on my own car using their instructions. Nick at NM Automotive sells and installs these boxes for customers in the UK as well.
Again not all boxes are created equal.
He doesn’t sell the boxes to customers directly, instead he sells and installs these boxes on US customer cars along with other upgrades like steering wheels, rear cameras, etc.
https://9xx.com/collections/997-2-20...uto4-for-pcm30
https://rennlist.com/forums/members/189969-atwong1.html
He is well regarded on the forums as he has been at it for a long time.
In the other thread I said that the fact that he travels across the US sells/installs these with a warranty is pretty telling as to the quality of the Unichip boxes.
Also the lack of negative feedback on the Unichip boxes on Rennlist with hundreds of apes like myself installing these over the years is also an indicator.
I didn’t go this route since I didn’t want to wait for him to come around to Austin, so I bought the same Unichip box from NM Automotive in the UK and installed it on my own car using their instructions. Nick at NM Automotive sells and installs these boxes for customers in the UK as well.
Again not all boxes are created equal.
We get thousands of emails and calls every single week from people complaining about brands they bought from China. They don't last, and unfortunately, this happens everyday.
05-10-2024, 12:08 AM
#56
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...l#post19410204
06-20-2024, 10:00 AM
#60
I installed the NM Automotive CarPlay solution a few weeks ago on my 997.2 C4S manual and so far it has been great. I can't compare with Mr12volt but the sound with NM Automotive from the stock Bose system is much improved to my ears.
The toughest part of the DIY process was sorting out the cables at the back of the PCM so that it fits snugly back into its spot - not much room back there.
The toughest part of the DIY process was sorting out the cables at the back of the PCM so that it fits snugly back into its spot - not much room back there.