DSC sport controller lust
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I suggest to just buy your DSC from Tom directly. He has put his heart into perfecting the product for over a decade. We should support him so he continues making more products for us. I truly believe the DSC is the product that has the biggest bang for the buck with the easiest install.
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Just order it. It's the single best upgrade you can make for this car. I would order this before exhaust or anything else. I waited 2 years after buying mine to get it and after getting it, I should have ordered it when I first bought the car. The car has a smoother, more comfortable ride around town then when pushing the car, the handling is better.
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I suggest to just buy your DSC from Tom directly. He has put his heart into perfecting the product for over a decade. We should support him so he continues making more products for us. I truly believe the DSC is the product that has the biggest bang for the buck with the easiest install.
Can I ask if the tuning cable necessary, have any of you used yours or thought that you needed to?
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Wow, these are pretty strong recommendations. I too have been lurking around the various sales sites hoping for one to pop up. But I guess the steering wheel swap will have to wait.
Can I ask if the tuning cable necessary, have any of you used yours or thought that you needed to?
Can I ask if the tuning cable necessary, have any of you used yours or thought that you needed to?
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You can add a stand alone system but it's better to just get custom coilovers. You already need new coilovers and adding the $2.5k for DSC makes Ohlins or KW V3 cost equivalent or a bargain and can be just as composed on the road.
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I recently sold a DSC controller. Big mistake... another one was ordered and will be installed in the car.
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I know there's been a lot of discussion and rave about the DSC mod but I have to admit I haven't paid close enough attention to understand what's so incredible about it. I don't track my car so how does it add to everyday street driving and occasional spirited back road driving? Just a short summary would be much appreciated.
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I know there's been a lot of discussion and rave about the DSC mod but I have to admit I haven't paid close enough attention to understand what's so incredible about it. I don't track my car so how does it add to everyday street driving and occasional spirited back road driving? Just a short summary would be much appreciated.
Some more info on OEM PASM, DSC and differences can be found here, and many other threads: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...s-passive.html
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The shortest summary would be that it does what the OEM PASM controller was supposed to do (dynamically change damper firmness of each individual corner while driving, based on multiple inputs), but much, much better. From what I understand it really brings PASM's potential to life. Think of PASM as something athletic, that's held back by a dumb brain when using the OEM PASM controller.
Some more info on OEM PASM, DSC and differences can be found here, and many other threads: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...s-passive.html
Some more info on OEM PASM, DSC and differences can be found here, and many other threads: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...s-passive.html
If you want to take it further, DSC has a relationship with Tractive and their shocks react must faster than the Bilstein units in our cars. I never drove on them, but I'll bet they really would take the refinement further.
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It makes sense that something like this could be a significant leap forwards in the last 15 years. Think of when Porsche was developing the units for our cars and the compute power available at the time. The advances in compute have been huge. Good point from Bruce that the limiting factor is likely the OE shock's ability to react fast enough. In hopes of making your wait more manageable, I bought & used one for a few months. Install is easy, and it's a pretty low risk "plug and play" that you can revert. I am a very, very small voice in the crowd here in that: yes, I could notice the difference, and yes, it did make the car ride a bit better, but it didn't make the car more "fun" and in fact it made it feel a bit synthetic. When the 997 is one of the last great analog cars, I actually want to move in the opposite direction and make it feel as predictable and analog as possible. DSC (un tuned) was a step in the wrong direction *for me*. I'm not trying to extract lap times. Ironically, DSC may be my easiest path towards linear suspension. I'm toying with the idea of buying another unit and programming it for zero input/reaction to g-force so that in theory it would behave as a non-adaptive system. Also note that I think people's experiences vary widely with DSC based on whether they have PASM or SPASM and how much wear they have on their shocks. It seems it can do a decent job with rehabbing old shocks for a while. My impressions are all on a 20k-mile SPASM car with healthy shocks fwiw.
Oh, final note and this is SUPER ocd. I think DSC should upgrade the case. Their profit on this thing has got to be astronomical. They could afford an OE quality case that felt like it belonged and didn't feel "soft" due to heat when I removed it. Gold flake? Seriously, make it feel at least as solid as the OE part which looks like it was built to last the life of the car.
Oh, final note and this is SUPER ocd. I think DSC should upgrade the case. Their profit on this thing has got to be astronomical. They could afford an OE quality case that felt like it belonged and didn't feel "soft" due to heat when I removed it. Gold flake? Seriously, make it feel at least as solid as the OE part which looks like it was built to last the life of the car.