Looking at a 2009 base w/PDK 120k miles and 30+ pages of service/maintenance history from 2 Porsche dealers and an Indy, no accidents. The owners says the check engine light comes on after fueling then turns back off and the Indy noted a bank 1 lean code. Is that a potential major issue and what other concerns should I have with the aforementioned mileage?

Thanks for any insight you can lend or links to previous info. on the same subject.

 

2009 C2S 186K miles

Like everything, what about price and your willingness to DIY... or pay an indy or dealership. As good as I think my car is, it is getting old. There will be work required. Suspension clunks, leaky shocks et al are very expensive to remedy unless you DIY and these items become kinda part of life with a car over 100K miles. I have interior creaks and sounds that are very annoying... I just spend two hours last week pulling off interior parts around the passenger door chasing a creak/squeak... I think I found it and remedied it by applying some silicone glue to cushion the offender.

You will be chasing things like bouncy idles and oddities....

Overall, I am incredibly impressed with .2 cars in that Porsche appeared to really focus on longevity and quality of parts.... but a car over 100K is still a car over 100K miles.... you can't beat entropy. Personally, I would not buy any car over 100K miles. For a 2009, I would pay a big premium to get one around 50K. No, my car is not falling apart at all.... But risk goes up with time.

If you were to buy this car, you most likely will be satisfied but don't expect to get a museum piece.

Peace
Bruce in Philly (now Atlanta)

 

Thanks, definitely not expecting a museum piece and the issues you described are not a hinderance as I've been wrenching and repairing for 30 years. I'm more concerned about engine and transmission longevity.

 

Just to restate - you've posed the question as to whether or not you should purchase a 2009 997.2 with 120,000 miles on it.

It sounds like the only concern you have is the high mileage - so the answer to your question is financial based.

In order to get an opinion or judgement on it, I think the missing information here is the price of the car.

 

Price is not the issue, looking for a ya or na on a 997.2 PDK longevity from a mechanical standpoint. Owners taking them to 180k+ with major failures (for instance)?

 

As long as the price reflects the miles.

I personally wouldn’t want to pay $80k for a 10k mile 997.2 knowing that every mile I put on the car is going to impact the value.

These cars are meant to be driven and have fun in, they aren’t bespoke and fragile Italian fare.

The other thing I like about these cars is deprecation free fun.

 

Im not concerned with the value after my ownership and definitely driving it as a weekend car. I just don’t want to get into a model that typically shows signs of major failures with higher mileage.

 

If price is not an issue, then just get a low mileage car and be done with it.

 

There are lots of people on here with cars over 100k miles. My previous 08 had over 100k miles and I had 100% confidence in the manual trans and motor. These are good cars. I think you can have high confidence in the .2 motor. Others will have to pipe in about PDK as I have only had manual cars

 

You know I meant the price on the subject car is not an issue.

 

Mind sharing the spec and price?

 

149K miles on my 2010 C4S PDK. Idle remains solid. The original shocks still work but could probably afford to be refreshed when I'm done with budgeting house needs. Parts replaced since new ...

Front brakes twice (60 and 120K miles) .
Rear brakes once (still had 30% left at 120K).
Left front axle boot (torn due to chip seal).
Front computer (weird failure).
Front top strut mounts at 120K (AWD geometry).

Oil changes every 5K miles. Rear tires at 20 to 25K miles (very neutral alignment settings). Front tires at 35 to 40K miles. Plugs every 40K miles (still original coils). PDK service every 60K miles. In other words, just the standard maintenance. A couple rattles on rough roads if you listen hard for them, but I've done no mitigation for this.

I added a 9xxresearch.com board for Android Auto. At the same time, I added a Sat radio board and cameras at the front and rear. I also added a center radiator. Beyond that, it's stock. Oh, also clear side lights, which reminds me of the extra frunk release cable behind the passenger light.

Full disclosure ... The windshield was replaced, and the front clip was repainted after a sandstorm met us in the Mojave desert ... no fault of the car.

This is the most reliable car of nearly one hundred that I've owned in over 50 years and over a million miles of driving. The only failure I could "blame" the car for is the front computer. The front axle boot tore when we came upon several miles of chip seal in Idaho. Months later, I filled a 5 gallon Homer Bucket with stones still sitting on the undercarriage ... the boot failure was not the car's fault.

The mileage would not concern me. For all intents and purposes, mine still performs as new. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a high mileage 997.2, assuming service records and other items were in order.

 

The wild card with the car is the PDK transmission - as it appears that you already realize.

The problem that those who have had transmission failures experience is that the replacement parts (even non-mechanical electronic components) are not made available to dealerships or independents.

Porsche restricts availability so the transmissions are generally replaced.

You might reach out to Sandwedge here on the forum with a PM on that topic - he's very experienced with the process and the associated costs... He's had at least two PDK failures on 997.2's.

 

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