Rationale for time-based OCI on long-drives M97 w/DT40?
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On my last 5 Blackstone UOA reports the water %s were all reported as "0.0". This is based on driving sporadically about 4k+ miles over a year with one annual oil change. Car is currently having it s oil changed now, will report next UOA in about a month.
Is this the type of data point you are looking for?
Is this the type of data point you are looking for?
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No disrespect to Pete or the other gentlemen but was hoping for the evidence (UOA) to support the theory that Pete offers. I tend to agree with the theory but I also suggested a more specific set of driving conditions that might influence the results and conclusion. I wanted to have more than my own data point to guide my selection of OCI. Science over other factors.
Here is another argument that is practical. Those oil experts over at the “Bob IS The Oil Guy” website insist that oil has a shelf life. While they argue about exactly what it is, they generally agree it is somewhere between 2 and 4 years. So, those of us who buy oil in bulk when on sale should be recording the dates on the cases and change oil as often as needed to consume inventory every two - three years…..or just quit buying it in bulk when on sale. Haha. Why throw away good, unused oil that is close to expiring. With regular maintenance on four vehicles, I buy lotsa oil.
And my final point is this………I just like going to my garage, turning up the radio, cracking a beer and changing my oil. So, I do it more often. My version of golf!
Happy holidays to All!
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Yes, amongst others. Water, fuel dilution, flashpoint, TAN, TBN, Al, etc. Looking for accumulating water and fuel (the "percents"), then the effects of any accumulated water and fuel (wear metals (elevation brought on by acidic environment), TAN, TBN, flashpoint, etc.).
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On my last 5 Blackstone UOA reports the water %s were all reported as "0.0". This is based on driving sporadically about 4k+ miles over a year with one annual oil change. Car is currently having it s oil changed now, will report next UOA in about a month.
Is this the type of data point you are looking for?
Is this the type of data point you are looking for?
So may have just the report you're looking for at her next oil change - might be over a year, coming up on 2, but under 3k miles.
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Excellent suggestion to use the OCI to catch a particularly bad problem for this engine.
Regarding excess fuel, does anyone know/studied what kind of drive (ambient conditions, duration, engine oil temp, etc.) drives off (boils out) the fuel? For example, a typical leaking single injector might add 2 ml to the crankcase and a 32 minute typical "grandpa" (no offense intended) drive evaporates 99pct of the crankcase fuel. There might also be a thermodynamic approach that can estimate it.
Regarding excess fuel, does anyone know/studied what kind of drive (ambient conditions, duration, engine oil temp, etc.) drives off (boils out) the fuel? For example, a typical leaking single injector might add 2 ml to the crankcase and a 32 minute typical "grandpa" (no offense intended) drive evaporates 99pct of the crankcase fuel. There might also be a thermodynamic approach that can estimate it.
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Nothing longer than probably 30 minutes with most being 10 minutes (home to gym, home to school to pick up our son, school to the golf course, a hook to the guitar studio....lots of small short drives with every 20th or 30th being a longer one.
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Thanks Pete. I think your usage/UOA will be a great counter-example to the conditions I originally offered. Since I know you take excellent care of your vehicles (your posts testify that you are a mechanic's mechanic) your data will be very valuable.
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I will post my next UOA in the next month or so- it will have all the info (TAN/TBN etc) you are requesting over six oil changes and the type of usage, wear metals and OCI you are referencing.
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No disrespect to Pete or the other gentlemen but was hoping for the evidence (UOA) to support the theory that Pete offers. I tend to agree with the theory but I also suggested a more specific set of driving conditions that might influence the results and conclusion. I wanted to have more than my own data point to guide my selection of OCI. Science over other factors.
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I changed my oil recently. I only went 1300 miles in about the 2 years between the oil changes (so sad). I had the used oil analyzed at SPEEDiagnostix. Attached are the results.