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Old 09-11-2022, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Prairiedawg
Nice work. It was a labor of love painstakingly entering VIN's into Vinanalytics.com and pulling out the data. Sometimes entering dozens of VIN's to find the GTS needle hidden in the C2's and C4's of sequential production numbers.
I'm sure the entire community agrees with me - this was an incredible effort on your part that helps everyone. We can't thank you enough.


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While I could do that, I have no computer skills and putting all that into an Excel doc is beyond me. Thanks for doing that. It's nice to see all that data tied up into a bow. Thanks to the others that contributed as well. We now have a fairly comprehensive data listing for was at one time, a mystery for a fairly limited production car.
My absolute pleasure to follow your and other's efforts here to bring it home. I really wanted a GTS, 6MT, non-black interior car. Couldn't find one and "settled" for my '12 C4S with black/sandbeige full leather. LOVE the car. But you know how it is. Really want that X51 plenum and heads lol. Now that I've done the math I see how insanely rare my 'ideal spec' 997 GTS is. I would have been waiting forever for the 'right' car. So happy with my purchase!

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Question for you, did you see any custom interiors? I don't remember anything out of the ordinary besides plastic, Alcantara, or full leather. I wondered if it was even an option back then for that model due to the lack of even one.
I actually didn't go back to vinanalytics to look at the build sheets, but there were 7 "Special leather" cars on your list, all Cocoa and Terracotta.
076/314 PDK GT Silver Metallic/Special Leather Cocoa 20839
077/314 6spd Carrara White/Special Leather Cocoa 20844
213/314 PDK Platinum Silver Metallic/Special Leather Cocoa 21194
272/314 6spd Black/Special Leather Terracotta 21374
083/245 PDK Carrara White/Special Leather Cocoa 54821
192/245 6spd Meteor Grey Metallic/Special Leather Terracotta 55215
208/245 PDK GT Silver Metallic/Special Leather Cocoa 55262

There are also 3 "Interior to Sample" cars - build sheets should have the interior code right?
243/325 6spd Basalt Black Metallic/Leather Interior to Sample 20597
254/325 6spd Guards Red/Leather Interior to Sample 20612
203/222 PDK Aqua Blue Metallic/Leather Interior to Sample 54639

I didn't see any two color full leather cars like mine there at all (my C4S shows "Black/Sand Beige" on the build sheet for interior color).

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Old 09-11-2022, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Prairiedawg
Question for you, did you see any custom interiors? I don't remember anything out of the ordinary besides plastic, Alcantara, or full leather. I wondered if it was even an option back then for that model due to the lack of even one.
WP0AB2A92CS720612 (Guards Red Coupe) → previous for sale ad
WP0AB2A9XCS720597 (Basalt Black Metallic Coupe)
WP0CB2A94CS754639 (Aqua Blue Metallic Cab)

all had "leather interior to sample".
Old 09-11-2022, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Body In White
WP0AB2A92CS720612 (Guards Red Coupe) → previous for sale ad
WP0AB2A9XCS720597 (Basalt Black Metallic Coupe)
WP0CB2A94CS754639 (Aqua Blue Metallic Cab)

all had "leather interior to sample".
Thanks for posting those 3 and the for sale ad on the first - same place I got my car (and paid more for). Gorgeous "tobacco" interior wow.

I don't see the interior code listed on the Rennlist VIN lookup tool. Is there some trick to getting it, or just post the VIN on vinanalytics.com? Sorry for the noob question.
Old 09-11-2022, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bradnic
I'm sure the entire community agrees with me - this was an incredible effort on your part that helps everyone. We can't thank you enough.




My absolute pleasure to follow your and other's efforts here to bring it home. I really wanted a GTS, 6MT, non-black interior car. Couldn't find one and "settled" for my '12 C4S with black/sandbeige full leather. LOVE the car. But you know how it is. Really want that X51 plenum and heads lol. Now that I've done the math I see how insanely rare my 'ideal spec' 997 GTS is. I would have been waiting forever for the 'right' car. So happy with my purchase!



I actually didn't go back to vinanalytics to look at the build sheets, but there were 7 "Special leather" cars on your list, all Cocoa and Terracotta.
076/314 PDK GT Silver Metallic/Special Leather Cocoa 20839
077/314 6spd Carrara White/Special Leather Cocoa 20844
213/314 PDK Platinum Silver Metallic/Special Leather Cocoa 21194
272/314 6spd Black/Special Leather Terracotta 21374
083/245 PDK Carrara White/Special Leather Cocoa 54821
192/245 6spd Meteor Grey Metallic/Special Leather Terracotta 55215
208/245 PDK GT Silver Metallic/Special Leather Cocoa 55262

There are also 3 "Interior to Sample" cars - build sheets should have the interior code right?
243/325 6spd Basalt Black Metallic/Leather Interior to Sample 20597
254/325 6spd Guards Red/Leather Interior to Sample 20612
203/222 PDK Aqua Blue Metallic/Leather Interior to Sample 54639

I didn't see any two color full leather cars like mine there at all (my C4S shows "Black/Sand Beige" on the build sheet for interior color).

OK, I don't remember those but also when entering black interior in leather X00 times your eyes glaze over. Member @Body In White contributed a lot also and filled in the gaps. The special interiors info was probably provided by him. I was probably thinking of the two color interiors.

A C4S isn't necessarily settling. I spent 2 years looking before I found my GTS. Most people don't have that kind of patience. I'm just stubborn. With such a limited run and then if wanting other than a white exterior and black interior, your odds go down dramatically, especially if you don't want to wait. I have 1 of the 2 Speed Yellow 6 speed Cabs. I just wanted a 6 speed Cab. Wasn't interested in Yellow, too loud for me but was love at first sight. Truly an exceptional build. I had no idea how rare and great of a build it was until I started this thread. In retrospect I was extremely lucky and in the right place/time to snag it. Would have been sold the next morning if I didn't put a deposit on it the day it listed.

I just wanted to settle once and for all the number/percentage of 6spd/PDK cars that were built. Speculation was 10-20% 6 speed builds. Turns out it's closer to 40% for all builds but around 30% for Cabs.

The X51 package is nice. Really not much faster than the standard 3.8L but a little more oomph at higher rpm's. The best part about it is with an exhaust bypass, better noise out the back. The GTS package is special as documented here and elsewhere and I especially like my Cab despite the "inferiority" of it to the Coupe. I look at it this way, It's basically a 997 Speedster (which wasn't available in a manual) that I can actually drive and not lose tens of thousands of dollars by doing so. Plus the number of 6 speed Cabs is dwarfed by the number of Speedsters, so we're even more exclusive.......at least I keep telling myself that......

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I'm looking for a 2WD GTS coupe. Ipanema is my #1 choice, I had no idea sparse they were.
Top choice colors I'm looking for besides Ipanema are: Any of the Blues, Speed Yellow, Red.
Basalt Black over Nat Brown/Beige or Alcantara.
P17 or 220 a plus.

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Good luck in your search- you'll need it.

https://bringatrailer.com/auctions/r...10&yearTo=2012

May have to log in (have an account) to view PCAR results:

https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/c...012&search=GTS

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Old 01-30-2023, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by secasensei
I'm looking for a 2WD GTS coupe. Ipanema is my #1 choice, I had no idea sparse they were.
Top choice colors I'm looking for besides Ipanema are: Any of the Blues, Speed Yellow, Red.
Basalt Black over Nat Brown/Beige or Alcantara.
P17 or 220 a plus.

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FWIW, There were no North American Ipanema cars optioned with P17 or 220. Good luck with your search.
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Old 01-30-2023, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by secasensei
I'm looking for a 2WD GTS coupe. Ipanema is my #1 choice, I had no idea sparse they were.
Top choice colors I'm looking for besides Ipanema are: Any of the Blues, Speed Yellow, Red.
Basalt Black over Nat Brown/Beige or Alcantara.
P17 or 220 a plus.

Thanks in Advance
secasensei@gmail.com
Ipanema would be a tall order. I might suggest putting a wanted ad up in the marketplace and on the PCA website.
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Wow...Crazy low numbers. Hard to see where mine falls in...But I have a 2012 GTS Aqua Blue Metallic, 6 speed with factory Aerokit.

LOVE this car...It will be a keeper for me for sure.
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May I please see a picture of your car?


Is this it?

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Originally Posted by zracer196
Wow...Crazy low numbers. Hard to see where mine falls in...But I have a 2012 GTS Aqua Blue Metallic, 6 speed with factory Aerokit.

LOVE this car...It will be a keeper for me for sure.
pics or it never happened...
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Originally Posted by zracer196
Wow...Crazy low numbers. Hard to see where mine falls in...But I have a 2012 GTS Aqua Blue Metallic, 6 speed with factory Aerokit.

LOVE this car...It will be a keeper for me for sure.
pics or it never happened...
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Originally Posted by Liste-Renn
May I please see a picture of your car?


Is this it?

Yes, that's it.
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Badass.

Everything get sorted out when you took delivery?
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Originally Posted by Liste-Renn
Badass.

Everything get sorted out when you took delivery?
Yes...Got a warranty...Although it seems perfect after about 2K added miles!

I am happy so many were scared of the DME...LOL! Have not had a chance to get my local Indy to run it (as they felt something was not accurate with it...Did not make sense).

Here are a couple of pics.







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