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Yes, an awesome display of the data.
Kudos to you for the effort it took to gather and do the data base entry to enable the user-friendly format we can all access.
I was surprised at the 40% 6MT build numbers- but am happy that there are more of that version for drivers to enjoy.
My 1313 build is Basalt Black Metallic- only 8% of the total NA build. That number surprised me, as well.
I firmly believe that the 997 GTS is a sweet spot among all 911s.
Even more unique is the RWD, 6MT, coupe version- which speaks to me as the perfect real-road-going version of a Carerra.
A Goldilocks build that suits long road trips (GTS) and also serious enough performance to exploit a track day (GTS).
And no it's not a GT3/RS that, IMO, is slanted too far towards a racetrack car for everyday canyon carving and road trip duty.
Mine has LSD, PSE. PDLS, Sport Chrono, Sat Radio, *** and awesome aftermarket radiator screen protectors and a back up camera. Adding wider GT2-size wheels/tires, a Sharkwerks center muffler delete X-pipe and a DSC PASM control box is icing on an already delicious cake.
And no need for a front axle lift.
Different strokes for different folks, but I am grateful that the 997 GTS RWD 6MT coupe exists.
I prefer the styling, analog instruments, hydro-mechanical steering, ratcheting hand-brake, 408 NA hp, RWD and those fat hips.
The CL wheels and alcantara are just enough of a nod to the GT3 for me, unique features that make it a bit special and differentiate it from the rest of the Carrera line-up.
Bravo to Prariedawg and ryantt for collating the data into a format we all can access.
(I especially like the graphics.)
Last edited by Liste-Renn; 07-26-2021 at 06:01 AM.
Mine has LSD, PDLS, Sport Chrono, Sat Radio, *** and an awesome back up camera. Adding wider GT2-size wheels/tires, a Sharkwerks center muffler delete X-pipe and a DSC PASM control box is icing on an already delicious cake.
Can we run gt2 sized true wide body tires with no changes or problems ? I’m trying to buy some new center lock wheels for a set of track tires and being able to use the actual gt2/gt3 rs sized wheels would open up a world of choices.
Yes.
I have 9 and 12 OZ Ultralegerra CL wheels with 245/35/19 and 325/30/19 MPS4S with PASM OEM suspension and zero clearance problems.
The 997.2 GT3 were 8.5 F and 11 R OEM wheels with 235/35 and 305/30 tires.
The 997.2 GT3RS and GT2 OEM wheels were 9 and 12.
The OZ Ultralegerra GT2 size wheels have the exact same offsets (47 F and 48 R ) as the GT2 ad GT3RS OEM wheels.
OZ also has a forged wheel, the Superforgiata, in the same size/offset.
They fill the wheel wells of a GTS almost flush without any clearance issues, even at full lock.
The GT2 wheel sizes cure the OEM 997 GTS Fuch RS Spyder crappy offsets:
My OZ UL wheels on previous owner's GTS with OEM SPASM (1/2 inch lower) ride height:
My OEM PASM (1/2 inch higher suspension than SPASM) equipped GTS with the very same wheels:
Last edited by Liste-Renn; 07-26-2021 at 06:38 AM.
This is the first time I have seen this list of all the GTS cars in the US. Never thought of mine as unique other than it has the AeroKit but come to find it was the very first 2012 4 GTS Coupe listed, 001/271! Not sure what that means though.....
@Body In White or @Prairiedawg do either of you (or anyone else for that matter) have this info in an excel format with a pivot table so we can explore production counts by various option combinations?
Black = 22% of total North American production
LSD = also 22% of total
6MT Coupe = 30% of total (301/1500)
Carrera Sport Wheel- 5-lug (XRR)= 8% of total
You own a pretty rare bird- but you already knew that.
With your mods, it is a true one-off.
Last edited by Liste-Renn; 03-25-2022 at 10:44 PM.
@Body In White or @Prairiedawg do either of you (or anyone else for that matter) have this info in an excel format with a pivot table so we can explore production counts by various option combinations?
No, I don't. I'm functionally illiterate when it comes to computers. I can type.....barely. If we/someone can create a spreadsheet then I'm happy to contribute data entry. I see the spreadsheet you posted on the other thread. If that could be edited to accomplish what your looking for then let's go that direction. My wife is a wiz with Excel and has created searchable databases with for her work. I can ask her for ideas.
We know all the information is available on Vinanalytics and is there for the taking. Admittedly when I started this thread, the data was/is a mess and getting it was a slog through thousands of VIN's picking through and getting just the GTS numbers. I just wanted to know how many/percentage of 6 speeds where out there and it turned into a little more. With the help of others we now have a better understanding of a lot of details on these cars. It would be nice though to understand what combinations. I'm open to ideas on how we can crowd source the data. With those last 5 on the VIN's there, the information is readily available. If we can get a searchable database together then maybe I would publish that at the start of the thread and delete the hundreds of cars and clean the whole thing up. We must have some members here with those types of talents?
I put it in an excel sheet and split the body style, drive, transmission, colour and interior in another thread. Another member then created a pivot table. Here’s the spreadsheet.
Originally Posted by nwGTS
@Body In White or @Prairiedawg do either of you (or anyone else for that matter) have this info in an excel format with a pivot table so we can explore production counts by various option combinations?
I put it in an excel sheet and split the body style, drive, transmission, colour and interior in another thread. Another member then created a pivot table. Here’s the spreadsheet.
yes I’m the one who made the pivot table. I can do the data entry but I’d need the other options represented above provided by each VIN. And, well, I’m not inclined at this point to manually retrieve them via vinanalytics. I was hoping that was done already.
Thanks everyone for all the work done gathering this data! I've cleaned the data up a bit and created an excel spreadsheet you can slice and dice with. Pivot tables really are amazing things.
Summarizing the info (all of this reported in one way or another already, but not really in one consolidated form:
2/3 (really 64% or 953 cars) of the US GTS cars were PDK
910 Coupes, 271 of those C4s, 95 of those C4s manual
615 cars had alcantara interiors
171 cars with interiors that were not black, meaning 1329 black interior cars (that includes the alcantara of course)
Carrara White the most common exterior color, followed by Black
The most often seen combination of all this is still pretty rare.
Carrara White PDK with a black interior: 263 cars, 149 of those coupes
Rarest combo are one off PTS and/or custom interior cars, as you would expect
have fun
US GTS cars by transmission and drive
US GTS cars by exterior color and transmission
US GTS cars by exterior color, model and transmission
Thanks everyone for all the work done gathering this data! I've cleaned the data up a bit and created an excel spreadsheet you can slice and dice with. Pivot tables really are amazing things.
Summarizing the info (all of this reported in one way or another already, but not really in one consolidated form:
2/3 (really 64% or 953 cars) of the US GTS cars were PDK
910 Coupes, 271 of those C4s, 95 of those C4s manual
615 cars had alcantara interiors
171 cars with interiors that were not black, meaning 1329 black interior cars (that includes the alcantara of course)
Carrara White the most common exterior color, followed by Black
The most often seen combination of all this is still pretty rare.
Carrara White PDK with a black interior: 263 cars, 149 of those coupes
Rarest combo are one off PTS and/or custom interior cars, as you would expect
have fun
Nice work. It was a labor of love painstakingly entering VIN's into Vinanalytics.com and pulling out the data. Sometimes entering dozens of VIN's to find the GTS needle hidden in the C2's and C4's of sequential production numbers. While I could do that, I have no computer skills and putting all that into an Excel doc is beyond me. Thanks for doing that. It's nice to see all that data tied up into a bow.
Thanks to the others that contributed as well. We now have a fairly comprehensive data listing for was at one time, a mystery for a fairly limited production car.
Question for you, did you see any custom interiors? I don't remember anything out of the ordinary besides plastic, Alcantara, or full leather. I wondered if it was even an option back then for that model due to the lack of even one.
07-25-2021, 02:08 AM
