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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 02:58 PM
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Prices have certainly risen, but trying to buy a 911 right now is like buying a house (which I did in summer of last year). Too many buyers, not enough cars. Just today I reached out to a brand new listing for a 997.2 I saw on Autotrader and the seller replied that the car is already sold! That has happened to me several times already. It almost doesn't seem worth it right now (but will it get better any time soon? Probably not).
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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesBaxter
Prices have certainly risen, but trying to buy a 911 right now is like buying a house (which I did in summer of last year). Too many buyers, not enough cars. Just today I reached out to a brand new listing for a 997.2 I saw on Autotrader and the seller replied that the car is already sold! That has happened to me several times already. It almost doesn't seem worth it right now (but will it get better any time soon? Probably not).
Reality. COVID happened. Everyone thought oh no, big problems for housing, cars, luxury goods, etc.
Take a breath, market recovered, wasn't the end of the world, AND couple that with, sorry but no one is travelling really at all. Not vacations. Not to Europe or on cruises.
But they still have disposable income, so suddenly the luxury car market went nuts. 992 allocations dried up and discounts went with them.
Trickle that down to the older generation cars. People want them, limited supply, and greater demand. This means a lot of cars are getting snapped up and values of certain models are going up, others are not going down as quickly, etc.
So a 996, 997 (.1 or .2) is sought after, and the market on these cars likely bottomed out 12-24 months ago and are now holding steady or due to this demand, actually rising if the sellers know the current market.

I don't expect it to get better for buyers.
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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 3rdpedal
Reality. COVID happened. Everyone thought oh no, big problems for housing, cars, luxury goods, etc.
Take a breath, market recovered, wasn't the end of the world, AND couple that with, sorry but no one is travelling really at all. Not vacations. Not to Europe or on cruises.
But they still have disposable income, so suddenly the luxury car market went nuts. 992 allocations dried up and discounts went with them.
Trickle that down to the older generation cars. People want them, limited supply, and greater demand. This means a lot of cars are getting snapped up and values of certain models are going up, others are not going down as quickly, etc.
So a 996, 997 (.1 or .2) is sought after, and the market on these cars likely bottomed out 12-24 months ago and are now holding steady or due to this demand, actually rising if the sellers know the current market.

I don't expect it to get better for buyers.
Everything luxury is on fire right now. I have friends trying to get nice watches and they are just unable to get one unless they want to pay a large markup. Of course, even with things opening back up and allowing people to spend their money elsewhere, supply will remain very low given COVID disruptions.

Maybe I'll redo my yard instead
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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rg21044
I have been wanting a 911 for a very long time. It was going to be the perfect 50th birthday present to myself. I had been watching the market for a while by January of 2020. Decent 2006/2007 Models were in the low to mid $40k range. I thought this is perfect. By next year I might be able to get a 997.2 for high forties. Then all hell broke loose in the 911 market. Now my $45k - $50k budget will barely get a high mileage 2006 C2.

is the best strategy to wait a year and see if 991 models start to dip into the high forties or is the market just inflating all 911s. I was under the impression that the low production numbers of the 997 were contributing to the inflated prices.
The Federal Reserve and the Congress are busy pumping $8.5 Trillion into a $21 Trillion economy. Prices are not coming down anytime soon. Best to hold your nose and buy what you like. They will be more expensive next year and even more the year after that. Meanwhile you are getting older, if you are lucky. IMHO: best to enjoy the car in good health, while you can. GLWYS
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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 04:38 PM
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Bring a Trailor today - Sold

32k-Mile 2008 Porsche 911 Carrera S 6-Speed

SOLD FOR $58,911 ON 4/15/21
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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 05:10 PM
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https://finder.porsche.com/us/en_US/...rrera-S-311955


This is a certified car that fits most of your criteria.

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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 06:50 PM
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I'm in the same boat. I'm looking for a well spec'd low mile 981 Boxster or Cayman S. Wasn't that long ago, $45k would get you a lot of car. That's what I was looking to spend. Better add $10k to that price to buy the same car today. I'm torn, do I wait it out for when sanity returns, or does it? Buy now and enjoy the car while it KEEPS appreciating. I might just do option 2 anyways and bite the bullet. Problem is though.....There just aren't any cars that fit what I'm looking for. When they do come around, they're gone in hours or even minutes... First world problems.
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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Prairiedawg
I'm in the same boat. I'm looking for a well spec'd low mile 981 Boxster or Cayman S. Wasn't that long ago, $45k would get you a lot of car. That's what I was looking to spend. Better add $10k to that price to buy the same car today. I'm torn, do I wait it out for when sanity returns, or does it? Buy now and enjoy the car while it KEEPS appreciating. I might just do option 2 anyways and bite the bullet. Problem is though.....There just aren't any cars that fit what I'm looking for. When they do come around, they're gone in hours or even minutes... First world problems.
Figure out what you want, look for it on a consistent basis, and be prepared to move on it when the opportunity arises.

But remember, certain cars are appreciating and others aren't. So that is a factor.
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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Prairiedawg
I'm in the same boat. I'm looking for a well spec'd low mile 981 Boxster or Cayman S. Wasn't that long ago, $45k would get you a lot of car. That's what I was looking to spend. Better add $10k to that price to buy the same car today. I'm torn, do I wait it out for when sanity returns, or does it? Buy now and enjoy the car while it KEEPS appreciating. I might just do option 2 anyways and bite the bullet. Problem is though.....There just aren't any cars that fit what I'm looking for. When they do come around, they're gone in hours or even minutes... First world problems.
Depends what you're looking for but I saw the below on PCA Mart. I keep resisting buying a Boxster as I think I get a lot of use out of a 2+2 configuration (which is what I've always had) even though the frunk and trunk are useful. They just don't have the length for things like golf bags, etc. Anyway, this one seemed pretty nice, though no PASM/PTV/PSE from what I can tell.

https://mart.pca.org/ads/49908
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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 07:27 PM
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I was in the same boat, so decided to stop waiting for sanity to return and bought a medium mileage manual 997.2 C4S, it may not appreciate since I plan to drive it and enjoy, but I don’t think I will lose much or anything over the long term either.
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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesBaxter
Depends what you're looking for but I saw the below on PCA Mart. I keep resisting buying a Boxster as I think I get a lot of use out of a 2+2 configuration (which is what I've always had) even though the frunk and trunk are useful. They just don't have the length for things like golf bags, etc. Anyway, this one seemed pretty nice, though no PASM/PTV/PSE from what I can tell.

https://mart.pca.org/ads/49908
I saw that one. I check all the sites multiple times a day. It's the only way to find what you're looking for. That's a nice car but I'm looking for specific options. Must have's include Sport Chrono, Sport Exhaust, PASM, and 14 or 18 way seats. I'm holding out until I find that car. Color doesn't matter except black paint or red interior. I may even take that if everything else checks all the boxes, maybe.
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Old Apr 18, 2021 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Prairiedawg
I saw that one. I check all the sites multiple times a day. It's the only way to find what you're looking for. That's a nice car but I'm looking for specific options. Must have's include Sport Chrono, Sport Exhaust, PASM, and 14 or 18 way seats. I'm holding out until I find that car. Color doesn't matter except black paint or red interior. I may even take that if everything else checks all the boxes, maybe.
some of those options can be added still - sport exhaust as the best example. It seems to me that part of what is going on is that the options are returning to their original value. That is to say, if you’re going to spend a $2500 premium on that option already, might as well get something with the harder to modify boxes ticked and just have Porsche take care of the easy ones after the fact.
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Old Apr 19, 2021 | 09:59 AM
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The simple reality is that we have more good days "behind us" than "ahead of us" the older we get.... If you find something that scratches the itch, buy it and don't wait or worry about getting the best deal. Owning is way more fun than waiting for the "market"....
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