Oil additive question-Ceratec?
#46
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#47
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Stay clear of them. That has been my opinion on them for the last 15 years :-) If you use a good oil, no need for additives. Again, using them is tantamount to using your engine for a science experiment.
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https://www.speediagnostix.com/new-o...iquimoly-5w-40
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I've been using Motul Xcess 5W-40 and planning to switch to Driven DT-40. If I recall, it's advised to use the BR30 oil for about 100 miles before switching to DT-40. Is that correct @Petza914 or @Charles Navarro ?
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DesmoSD (01-27-2021)
#50
Flush is not required when switching to Driven. I'll clarify flush refers to running another Driven oil for a short period to drain out before going to DT40, not using an oil flush product sold to "clean" your engine. You shouldn't run these products in your Porsche engine.
The thought process behind doing an intermediate oil change when switching brands is to minimize the effect of cross-pollination of additives that will throw off a used oil analysis. If you don't care about the UOA results for that first oil change, then there is no need to go through this process or just be aware the first UOA won't be best indicator of how the oil is performing.
The thought process behind doing an intermediate oil change when switching brands is to minimize the effect of cross-pollination of additives that will throw off a used oil analysis. If you don't care about the UOA results for that first oil change, then there is no need to go through this process or just be aware the first UOA won't be best indicator of how the oil is performing.
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Great to hear from the experts. I'm moving back to the DT40 camp now. The price isn't a concern and I do like the best for engine health. Now I understand the flushig process better. I won't measure the first 2 oil changes which I'm doing a 4k interval. I'm at 3600 now and ready to make an order. Anyone have recommendations where to get a fresh batch of DT40? I see links to driven, LN and summit. I doubt Amazon is the way to go.
https://lnengineering.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=dt40
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Fullyield (01-27-2021)
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@Petza914 Brought up a good point to use the BR oil for 100 miles before switching to DT to reduce any cross contamination between UOA results. I'm in CA, why do you recommend BR40 over BR30?
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DesmoSD (01-27-2021)
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Wow this turned into an oil thread, didn't mean for that to happen, but it's ok as it is ultimately related.
So, as far as DT40 goes, how long / many miles before it affects your catalytic converter, if at all. IIRC that is the reason why it was not an approved oil according to one of the earlier posts.
So, as far as DT40 goes, how long / many miles before it affects your catalytic converter, if at all. IIRC that is the reason why it was not an approved oil according to one of the earlier posts.
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Past UOL Molybdenum results (ppm) Most recent first:
- Mobil 1 5w-50 309 and 309 (Ceratec added per recommended volume)
- Motul 8100 Excess 5w-40 4 and 17 (no Ceratec)
- Mobil 1 0w-40 87 (no Ceratec)
Yesterday, one of the 3, received engine oil flush treatment and an overnight drain. Sticky cam shaft adjuster and I "hope" the oil flush addresses the problem. Switched to Driven DI 0w-40 for the primary reason of running an oil formulated to reduce LSPI. LN Engineering has decent case prices.
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Fullyield (02-01-2021)
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Great to hear from the experts. I'm moving back to the DT40 camp now. The price isn't a concern and I do like the best for engine health. Now I understand the flushig process better. I won't measure the first 2 oil changes which I'm doing a 4k interval. I'm at 3600 now and ready to make an order. Anyone have recommendations where to get a fresh batch of DT40? I see links to driven, LN and summit. I doubt Amazon is the way to go.
#59
I was using Ceratec in three of my vehicle using Mobil 1 5W-50 FS X2. UOLs for all of them. Positive results.
Past UOL Molybdenum results (ppm) Most recent first:
- Mobil 1 5w-50 309 and 309 (Ceratec added per recommended volume)
- Motul 8100 Excess 5w-40 4 and 17 (no Ceratec)
- Mobil 1 0w-40 87 (no Ceratec)
Yesterday, one of the 3, received engine oil flush treatment and an overnight drain. Sticky cam shaft adjuster and I "hope" the oil flush addresses the problem. Switched to Driven DI 0w-40 for the primary reason of running an oil formulated to reduce LSPI. LN Engineering has decent case prices.
Past UOL Molybdenum results (ppm) Most recent first:
- Mobil 1 5w-50 309 and 309 (Ceratec added per recommended volume)
- Motul 8100 Excess 5w-40 4 and 17 (no Ceratec)
- Mobil 1 0w-40 87 (no Ceratec)
Yesterday, one of the 3, received engine oil flush treatment and an overnight drain. Sticky cam shaft adjuster and I "hope" the oil flush addresses the problem. Switched to Driven DI 0w-40 for the primary reason of running an oil formulated to reduce LSPI. LN Engineering has decent case prices.
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Wow this turned into an oil thread, didn't mean for that to happen, but it's ok as it is ultimately related.
So, as far as DT40 goes, how long / many miles before it affects your catalytic converter, if at all. IIRC that is the reason why it was not an approved oil according to one of the earlier posts.
So, as far as DT40 goes, how long / many miles before it affects your catalytic converter, if at all. IIRC that is the reason why it was not an approved oil according to one of the earlier posts.