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Old 09-12-2024, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Petza914
Only the Turbo S was PDK. Turbos were available in either PDK or manuals.

The 991 speedster was only available as a manuals
and not offered with PDK, to go along with the sportier nature of that offering. The 997 speedster was available with a manual or PDK.

The 991 speedster is probably the best looking 911 from the last 20 years and the prices reflect that, at roughly double what current 997 GTSs sell for.
997 Speedster was PDK only.

991 Speedster had an MSRP of more than 2.5x that of the 997 GTS to begin with, and sale prices relative to its typical build plus ADM aren’t actually as strong as some other models. Last PTS speedster sold for 125% of msrp vs 136% for the last PTS 991 GT3 Touring on BaT.
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Old 09-12-2024, 10:20 AM
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He now has it listed for $140k. That seems... ambitious.

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Zero info on the site.
Based on the ridiculously brief description and mileage, it may warrant a price commensurate with the ask.

This only reinforces my rebuke to the dude above who spouted nonsense about 997 GTS 6MT Coupe values.

RF is not a bottom dweller.
Old 09-12-2024, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by bluelines1974
He now has it listed for $140k. That seems... ambitious.
Maybe. But I wouldn't be surprised if he gets 130+ for it. And the black 6K mile one on BAT is going to go for ludicrous money, I'll bet.
Old 09-12-2024, 10:36 AM
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In RF world, a fairly bare bones MT C4S now goes for what a good MT RWD GTS used to trade for.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...icle/725938457
Old 09-12-2024, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Hootsama
Maybe. But I wouldn't be surprised if he gets 130+ for it. And the black 6K mile one on BAT is going to go for ludicrous money, I'll bet.
You're probably right. The 6k mile one is already at $90k with six days to go. Never understood the bidders who dive in and compete so early in the auction. It's really pointless bidding until the very end.
Old 09-12-2024, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bluelines1974
997 Speedster was PDK only.
Look up the transmission info in these articles on the 997 speedster.

https://www.porscheknowledge.com/911-997-speedster/

https://www.stuttcars.com/porsche-91...s-performance/
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No 997 Speedsters were manual, regardless of what those articles say.

https://press.porsche.com/prod/press...124&archive=10

From this release:

The seven-speed Porsche Doppelkupplungsgetriebe (PDK) transmission transmits power to the rear axle with a limited-slip differential lock, also included as standard equipment. A six-speed manual transmission is not available.
Originally Posted by Petza914
Look up the transmission info in these articles on the 997 speedster.

https://www.porscheknowledge.com/911-997-speedster/

https://www.stuttcars.com/porsche-91...s-performance/

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Old 09-12-2024, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by bluelines1974
No 997 Speedsters were manual, regardless of what those articles say.

https://press.porsche.com/prod/press...124&archive=10

From this release:
Can't find an image of an interior that shows a manual so I believe you're correct. There's another model I can now check off my want list.
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Old 09-12-2024, 05:13 PM
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He is correct.

997 Speedsters were bespoke actual limited edition cars with PDK as the only option.

Porsche may have realized that blunder by developing a Race Division 6MT for the 991 R and then making that box the sole option on the 991 Speedster.

As far as the 997.2 range, both the turbo and turbo S versions produced too much torque for the Aisin 6MT of the Carrera and GTS. A Getrag 6MT was used, slightly different from the GT version-but most were PDK optioned cars.


I believe the AWD of the turbo was in response to the reputation of the RWD 997.2 GT2 RS, which could be a handful on boost.

"Riding the line between bogging out and lighting up the massive rear tires—and doing our best to shift quickly from our tester’s right-seat driving position—we managed a deceptively, um, long 3.3-second run to 60 mph, or 0.5 second slower than our best in a Turbo S with launch control. Although that’s still very quick, the GT2’s acceleration intensifies dramatically once the car is moving and is accompanied by a significant lightening of steering effort as the car squats and squirms for traction. Keeping both hands on the wheel is advised.

Overlooking the objective figures, the GT2 RS is simply insanely fast on the road and something of a handful when the front wheels attempt to leave the pavement under maximum acceleration in the lower gears."

- Car &Driver review 2010


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Old 09-12-2024, 05:38 PM
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Regular Turbos (non-GT) have been AWD since the 993.
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Old 09-13-2024, 01:36 AM
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997.2 Coupe Manual
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Originally Posted by duns997gts
Is that really a GTS? Brake rotors look tiny and rotors aren't ceramics even though the calipers are yellow, black faced gauges, plastic dash, lots of fender gap, and no engine photos from above or below. Looks like a base 997.2 Carrera with aftermarket wing and maybe a centerlock conversion.
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Originally Posted by Petza914
Is that really a GTS? Brake rotors look tiny and rotors aren't ceramics even though the calipers are yellow, black faced gauges, plastic dash, lots of fender gap, and no engine photos from above or below. Looks like a base 997.2 Carrera with aftermarket wing and maybe a centerlock conversion.
Ad says it was listed a year ago. Long gone if it is what it says it is.
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Originally Posted by Petza914
Is that really a GTS? Brake rotors look tiny and rotors aren't ceramics even though the calipers are yellow, black faced gauges, plastic dash, lots of fender gap, and no engine photos from above or below. Looks like a base 997.2 Carrera with aftermarket wing and maybe a centerlock conversion.

Good catch.
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Curious. I have a Carrera White Manual Coupe GTS. What would you think I can price mine at? That is IF I do decide to sell. I see a 991 GT3 in my range………👀

2012 Porsche 911 GTS
Carrera White
Manual
72,500 Miles

Clean Title - 2x Reports for Bumper Repaint

I have stock parts.




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