@usel my Numeric order is finally on its way (close to 5 weeks before it shipped out and should be here on the 4th). Your comment made me wonder if they have since changed the cables for regular Carreras - non turbo, non GT.
Did they happen to mention anything to you when you reached out to them?

 

What do you define as notchiness? Sometimes it takes a bit more effort to slot first from neutral at the lights, ie. cannot select first, so go back to neutral, clutch up and in again before putting in gear. That has never bothered me. The benefit of the vast improvement in shift feel is worth having to put up with any small issues like that.

 

I have this issue with my bone stock C2 and figured it needed fluid change to sort it out. I saw a comment above that fluid didn't fix, and am now really wondering about going with just the numeric shifter and stock cables to see if that sorts it. But your comment makes me think that won't completely 'solve' it either. It's not the end of the world by any means, I just always thought it would be a quick fluid change fix so why not take care of it.

Can anyone confirm a fluid change with new PTX and or Numeric setup resolved or changed this?

Thanks!

Eric

 

@ehagendorff had my guy do a transmission fluid replacement with the PTX that I provided him and that everybody has been recommending... no change at all for me.

Going into first can be difficult but at some have mentioned just go back to neutral, depress the clutch and engage first gear. It should be all good.

I got my DL back in Germany and instructor would recommend to slow down to a red light in third gear (city driving) and once stopped engage first gear right away. I’ve always done this and still do and when doing so I don’t experience any difficulties engaging first gear.
Big advantage of being in first gear already is that you can drive away if someone is about to hit you from behind - especially good trick to use when you ride a motorcycle since people don’t always see them at red lights...

As far as first to second I finally realized - after someone mentioned it - that switching from
1st to 2nd extremely fast even when cold solves all the issues - I’m not talking about over revving the engine. You can also blip the throttle between shifts.

 

I do the similar whenever I get any difficulty getting it in first- I just put it in second or fourth gear and then into first and it always goes in. I sometimes put it into first and hold the clutch like you said if it’s a short light but read it’ll wear out the throwout bearing. Wonder if that’s really true.

 

So the simple answer to the simple question is that no, the numeric shifter will not cure the 1st gear blues. Forget all the work arounds, double clutching BS, holding in the clutch at the light , not the end of the world, but it should not be.

Now what about cable ends alone - will that do anything? Like my boss likes to say to me -"its a simple question" ....

 

As a matter of fact, it happens on lots of manual cars not only on the 997.
Aren’t the clutch and brakes running on the same hydraulic system...

 

This is true. Even on arguably the best manual transmissions ever made, the S2000 and Miata transmissions, they too will have difficulty when cold.

 

Thanks everyone. My wife and I put it in neutral clutch out blip back to 1st to get it to go, just thought there might be a fix. Makes sense the shifter alone wouldn't solve as it's most likely the transmission itself (why I thought fluid) not the linkage or anything, in that case it would be way worse off.

This sort of thing didn't happen but maybe a few times on my RSX S over 260k+ miles (when my wife made me get rid of it). Boy as a teenager that car got mistreated so badly but I loved it a lot.

My 6MT cruze that followed it had a hard time getting into 2nd when cold and fluid change solved any roughness in that transmission the rest of its life about 15k-86k when we traded that for a small SUV for the kids/winters..(grown up car). Now in the 997 dream car. Kids love it.

Thanks again.

 

I would call Numeric and tell them your exact car model. When I spoke to them about having problems installing cables, Numeric acknowledged that originally they made shorter cables, I believe better suited to my car ( 2006 C2s). Numeric explained since guys with GT and Turbos were complaining the cables are too short Numeric started selling longer cables. The longer cable was binding, was not a smooth shift. Numeric was great super helpful and just. They had a bunch of shorter cables and sent me out a pair to try. Shifting is now much better.

 

The first gear hesitation never once happened in my Boxster that I had for 17 yrs, so I was a little surprised when I noticed it on my 997. Wonder what really causes it.

 

Both my 997s have SSKs in them but I don't know what brand they are as they were in the cars and identified during the PPIs. I believe the one in my wife's car is blue in color if anyone know what that is. Both cars have the OEM cables but I have a set of Numeric Cables in the closet for whichever car needs them first. Both cars have recent PTX and shift great.

 

I’m not sure when Porsche moved away from
cable actuated clutch.
I remember braking mine in my Peugeot 205 GTI 1.9L. There’s a small metal disc attached to the end of it. When it broke, it went through the radiator!!!!

 

I think the Blue is the factory SSK. I remember seeing blue in a picture of the 3 factory assemblies side by side before. Found it quickly. From Planet-9 forums.



Review: Factory OEM vs SSK OEM vs GT3 shifter | Planet-9 Porsche Forum

 

I will say...absolutely. As long as it's installed by someone who knows what he's doing. Horror stories here and elsewhere of some guys doing it themselves with very bad results. For my long gone -06 C4S I went with one of the least expensive ones (B&M) as recommended by my dealership service advisor. His opinion was that it had a shorter throw and more precise feel than the factory kit for less money. He also told me that the tech doing the install took the car for three road test trips until he was satisfied. All about adjusting the cables just right as I understand it.

End result was amazing. Way shorter throw and smoother as well. I could change gears with two fingertips. Numeric wasn't mentioned, nor have I tried it so can't speak for that. Gets a lot of praise here though so if budget isn't an issue, consider it.

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