JamesBaxter

I’ve had my 997.2 C4 for a year now. Love it, don’t ever think “Man, I should’ve gotten the S.” My car does have full leather, though. If you plan on tracking the car, going up to an S makes sense but if you’re using it to daily/spirited mountain drives like me, I don’t think you’ll miss the S. I was shopping for a C2S but when I found this car in the color combo I wanted I had to jump. No regrets.

ATX_Native

I haven’t seen $20k gaps given the same miles and accident history.

Maybe private vs non-dealer or accident histories.

The 993 C2S models bring stupid money over other non-S models because is it’s a RWD factory widebody.

IMO if you’re looking for speculative buys, the 997.2 GTS RWD should bring huge bucks over the other non GT models and potentially grow a larger gap over time. Limited numbers, 400HP, the only RWD NA 997 Factory Widebody.

groovzilla

My 2 sense

I've owned 997S cars and 997 C4 base. I've said this before but hard to tell difference in the extra HP on the S model as well as any better braking with the larger Red brakes.
I always hated the white gauge dials in the S and prefer the black dials - My base C4 has full leather, short shift, Fister exhaust and lowered w/H&R springs. I love the widebody.

IMO, considering the S 3.8L engine is much more prone to Bore Scoring, I think the C4 base is a good choice these days.

alfetta

I agree with @Petza914, its all about the options. Especially suspension options. <!--td {border: 1px solid #ccc;}br {mso-data-placement:same-cell;}-->

Silly facts department:

Average MSRP taken from the major auction site's sales over the past four years noted below---.1 and .2 cabs only, including both C2 and C4 modes.

S $114,167
Base $102,783
4S $116,206
GTS $129,554

SpeedyD

I was responding to the posts above referring to $20k premium.

Whatever the premium is today, it equals or exceeds the premium from 6 years ago. You get all or most of your $ back if you sell.

Yes, the GTS is a great buy.

bheit1

In regards to Groovzilla's comment about the 3.8s having more bore scoring problems; this is true especially in the .1s (3.6s too), much less so in the .2s, and primarily in cold regions where the engines are not allowed to warm up gradually.

The "Porsche 997, 2004 to 2012, The Essential Companion" book by Adrian Streather details all options and specs of all versions of 997s, and more. It's really an encyclopedia on the 997 series. Perfect for anyone trying to hash out the differences in generations.

FlatsixS

Yes that book about the 997 is a good read for any interested to dive deep in details and options for each model. Certainly well recommended for all 997 owners or those potential future owners as well.
a lot of details, specs and comparisons included.
I enjoyed the reading. Still my main reference when I want to check something specific about the car.

Carreralicious

True story… way back when I had a Boxster, I was stopped at a light with my top down and two guys in an Audi A4 pulled up next to me and one of em says to me, “why not the S”? 😆

ATX_Native

😂🤣😂

Meanwhile more than half of their engine is hanging forward of the front axle.

Brilliant.

Carreralicious

Right?!…besides, they were driving a base A4 too! 😆

wjk_glynn

I've owned and enjoyed earlier books by Streather (e.g. his 964 and 993 books).

But his book on the 997 has some issues. See posts #54 and #55 on this thread: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...l#post13426075

Thanks.

997.2cs

S owner for a few months and this line here just caused a DSC controller purchase. Thanks!! Lol

FlatsixS

wow didn’t realize it. Good to know. Thanks.

ManoTexas

Best change you’ll ever do. People will tell you it’s 10 min swap. Only if you have small hands. I was going to post vid of me doing it. However recording xxxl hands cramming into tiny space, the words I used while trying to get stock one out, and the worse words I used when pulling it out with scraped bleeding hand were deemed x-rated. Getting DSC to seat also included quite a few words. Highly recommend getting wife or kid to do it. Or give your Indy $50 and smile knowing their hand will be marred and yours pristine.

997.2cs

haha just installed this morning and was saying something similar!!. “5 minutes if you’re just leaving the new one hanging out!” About another 10 minutes and probably a could of days of back pains to get the new unit secure, back in the original position.

However, I do agree the difference is quite noticeable and am very pleased. To each their own about whether it’s “worth it” as it’s a considerable amount of money, however the ride is a lot more enjoyable for me now with less teeth clenching and in a non technical term, taking bumps is more rounded out. With all the reviews online it seemed like amazon freebie reviews or shill reviews…

thanks for the advice and sorry to thread jack, but this does help with support of having an S with PASM although I can’t really compare to a non S.