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Consequently, the Porsche OEM wheel offsets are not as aggressive as wheel well spacing allows for at stock ride height (which also must comply with snow chain clearance tolerances).
I am pretty sure the extra track width has a negligible affect on performance, but your eyes don't lie. Style-wise, spacers or wheels with custom offsets are the cure for crappy looking offset wheels. (And suspension mods for crappy stock ride height.) Racers and aftermarket cottage industries have addressed both issues since the early 60's.
If you like the look of OEM wheels, and also saving $, spacers are the way to correct bad offset.
Custom wheels address both styling and offset deficiencies- and is the only way to fix a crappy OEM centerline wheel offset.
Lighter wheels (usually forged) definitely affect performance.
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I had a great tech in NJ and would never let anyone else touch it. He's the one that talked me into the SS although it didn't take much persuasion. I have another great tech here in FL. I've had such bad experiences with independents over the many years I've owned Porsches (30+) I just stick with the dealer and the one tech I love.
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My favorite 3 mods so far (C2 manual)
1) Numeric shifter - just do it
2) Center muffler bypass - I went with Top Gear from the UK - the car now sounds like it should have. Sounds great, especially above 5000rpms, but retains the flat 6 character you expect
3) Eibach springs and 10/15mm spacers. Car looks awesome with that stance, multiple people have commented that it now looks the way it should have come from the factory.
1) Numeric shifter - just do it
2) Center muffler bypass - I went with Top Gear from the UK - the car now sounds like it should have. Sounds great, especially above 5000rpms, but retains the flat 6 character you expect
3) Eibach springs and 10/15mm spacers. Car looks awesome with that stance, multiple people have commented that it now looks the way it should have come from the factory.
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Haven’t gone through all the pages so non biased...and lazy.
1. Wait for the car you want. Don’t settle. If you are an “S” person wait for it.
2. DSC. totally changes the car. Just buy it. You will buy it after thinking too long and then say why did I wait...I did
3. Numeric shifter vs center bypass.
Runner ups depending on configuration of your car and year of your vehicle.
Exhaust:
997.1 needs fister/gundo hack. Sounds amazing.
997.2 needs center bypass to enhance above.
iPod:
997.1 needs mr12volt.
997.2 needs bovee unit
1. Wait for the car you want. Don’t settle. If you are an “S” person wait for it.
2. DSC. totally changes the car. Just buy it. You will buy it after thinking too long and then say why did I wait...I did
3. Numeric shifter vs center bypass.
Runner ups depending on configuration of your car and year of your vehicle.
Exhaust:
997.1 needs fister/gundo hack. Sounds amazing.
997.2 needs center bypass to enhance above.
iPod:
997.1 needs mr12volt.
997.2 needs bovee unit
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Haven’t gone through all the pages so non biased...and lazy.
1. Wait for the car you want. Don’t settle. If you are an “S” person wait for it.
2. DSC. totally changes the car. Just buy it. You will buy it after thinking too long and then say why did I wait...I did
3. Numeric shifter vs center bypass.
Runner ups depending on configuration of your car and year of your vehicle.
Exhaust:
997.1 needs fister/gundo hack. Sounds amazing.
997.2 needs center bypass to enhance above.
iPod:
997.1 needs mr12volt.
997.2 needs bovee unit
1. Wait for the car you want. Don’t settle. If you are an “S” person wait for it.
2. DSC. totally changes the car. Just buy it. You will buy it after thinking too long and then say why did I wait...I did
3. Numeric shifter vs center bypass.
Runner ups depending on configuration of your car and year of your vehicle.
Exhaust:
997.1 needs fister/gundo hack. Sounds amazing.
997.2 needs center bypass to enhance above.
iPod:
997.1 needs mr12volt.
997.2 needs bovee unit
Also Numeric vs. OEM SSK in similar scenario - does numeric make sense if you are not tracking the 997?
I am seriously considering the Fister and already have the mr12volt and will try to tackle that in next couple of weeks along with replacing the AC switches and adding the rennsport phone holder. Bang for the time required to take apart the center console!
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Originally Posted by 8KaboveMSL
@kellen Would you recommend DSC for owners that have use their 997s as a daily driver or weekender and have no intention of regularly tracking their 997?
Also Numeric vs. OEM SSK in similar scenario - does numeric make sense if you are not tracking the 997?
I am seriously considering the Fister and already have the mr12volt and will try to tackle that in next couple of weeks along with replacing the AC switches and adding the rennsport phone holder. Bang for the time required to take apart the center console!
Also Numeric vs. OEM SSK in similar scenario - does numeric make sense if you are not tracking the 997?
I am seriously considering the Fister and already have the mr12volt and will try to tackle that in next couple of weeks along with replacing the AC switches and adding the rennsport phone holder. Bang for the time required to take apart the center console!
Regarding the shifter, the oem ssk still has plastic bushings, that's my biggest complaint with the stock and oem setup, the shift just gets loose, and lacks precision. The numeric or, function first mods, fix that. Secondly, although I don't find the stock throw to be ridiculously long, a shorter shift is a bonus.
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@kellen super helpful, thanks! I’ve just had the OEM short shifter installed and am still in adjustment phase with indy shop that installed it. The shorter throws are really nice, just needs some adjustments to smooth it out on a couple of shifts 1st -> 2nd mainly. On the bushings, I am probably OK as I don’t plan on driving it a ton of miles/year. Will be mostly a weekender/summer road trip car for me, so I am probably ok on that front.
Will pull the trigger on the DSC though.
Cheers!
Will pull the trigger on the DSC though.
Cheers!
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@kellen Would you recommend DSC for owners that have use their 997s as a daily driver or weekender and have no intention of regularly tracking their 997?
Also Numeric vs. OEM SSK in similar scenario - does numeric make sense if you are not tracking the 997?
I am seriously considering the Fister and already have the mr12volt and will try to tackle that in next couple of weeks along with replacing the AC switches and adding the rennsport phone holder. Bang for the time required to take apart the center console!
Also Numeric vs. OEM SSK in similar scenario - does numeric make sense if you are not tracking the 997?
I am seriously considering the Fister and already have the mr12volt and will try to tackle that in next couple of weeks along with replacing the AC switches and adding the rennsport phone holder. Bang for the time required to take apart the center console!
@kellen super helpful, thanks! I’ve just had the OEM short shifter installed and am still in adjustment phase with indy shop that installed it. The shorter throws are really nice, just needs some adjustments to smooth it out on a couple of shifts 1st -> 2nd mainly. On the bushings, I am probably OK as I don’t plan on driving it a ton of miles/year. Will be mostly a weekender/summer road trip car for me, so I am probably ok on that front.
Will pull the trigger on the DSC though.
Cheers!
Will pull the trigger on the DSC though.
Cheers!
Ssk was improved with function first bearing kit, it makes all the connections metal and tightened it up. The numeric is just a 20% better, tighter and easier to install.
Fisters are a must! Same with the DSC.
The 1-2 shift seems to be a common thing. Changing the gear oil, cables, motor mounts, shift setup have all been tried but to my knowledge nothing 100%, more additive as you do more.
Best of luck!
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@kellen Would you recommend DSC for owners that have use their 997s as a daily driver or weekender and have no intention of regularly tracking their 997?
Also Numeric vs. OEM SSK in similar scenario - does numeric make sense if you are not tracking the 997?
I am seriously considering the Fister and already have the mr12volt and will try to tackle that in next couple of weeks along with replacing the AC switches and adding the rennsport phone holder. Bang for the time required to take apart the center console!
Also Numeric vs. OEM SSK in similar scenario - does numeric make sense if you are not tracking the 997?
I am seriously considering the Fister and already have the mr12volt and will try to tackle that in next couple of weeks along with replacing the AC switches and adding the rennsport phone holder. Bang for the time required to take apart the center console!
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I think all the mods are worthwhile even if not tracking the car. I had the factory ssk in my 997.1, was great. Drove a friends regular manual and felt like a semi truck with long throws.
Ssk was improved with function first bearing kit, it makes all the connections metal and tightened it up. The numeric is just a 20% better, tighter and easier to install.
Fisters are a must! Same with the DSC.
The 1-2 shift seems to be a common thing. Changing the gear oil, cables, motor mounts, shift setup have all been tried but to my knowledge nothing 100%, more additive as you do more.
Best of luck!
Ssk was improved with function first bearing kit, it makes all the connections metal and tightened it up. The numeric is just a 20% better, tighter and easier to install.
Fisters are a must! Same with the DSC.
The 1-2 shift seems to be a common thing. Changing the gear oil, cables, motor mounts, shift setup have all been tried but to my knowledge nothing 100%, more additive as you do more.
Best of luck!
Will report back on where I land.