It's funny you mention that because I was going to reply the same thing the other day. I have an 09 C2S manual and it's gone up in value since I bought it about a year ago. As the realization has set in about how rare my car is, I'm feeling increasingly guilty about taking it to track days and modifying it, though all my mods are easily (though not quickly) reversible. I recently ordered some track day temporary paint protection film. Track days are getting expensive.....

 

Stop thinking of car value unless planning to sell. I don’t care if going up or down, or if what I do in miles, driving, or mods impacts value. My wife or kids can deal with it. No plans to ever sell in my lifetime. I once told a son when I get old lift me into passenger seat, put top down and drive down nearby mountain roads really fast. You have great car, live great and enjoy it.

 

Couldn't agree more but as you know, many buyers feel that a PPI is wasted money on a CPO car. As I recall it, the buyer of the car I linked to more or less admitted to being a fool for not having a PPI done especially since neither himself or anyone he knew would see the car in person prior to buying. He took the sales guy's word for the fact that the car was perfect.

 

That's a cool list! 2010 C2S Manual Cab here with exactly 30K miles on the clock. Only 1393 units produced that year.

 

I would say about 1/2 the PPIs have paid for have been a total waste of money. Can do better looking at car in person as only you know your standards or tolerances. These are used cars, old at that. They are rarely perfect cosmetically. Most PPIs also pretty much miss all but the most obvious stuff mechanically.

 

I don't doubt what you say. Just like with pre purchase home/condo inspections I've had some terrible experiences with those. So I must have been lucky with the PPI's. The ones I've paid around $300 or $350 for have been very thorough and accurate.

But back to the point I made earlier. Just because a car is sold with CPO certification doesn't mean a PPI is a complete waste as many or at least some seem to think. Especially if you don't have the option for whatever reason to check the car out yourself. This was the case in the story I linked to which proves that. You have to think that even the sloppiest PPI inspection would have caught all the flaws with that car which was later evaluated as being in "poor wholesale condition and certainly not CPO retail". The gap between poor wholesale condition as described by the buyer's body shop and perfect CPO condition as described by the Beverly Hills sales guy is pretty wide no matter what lens you use.

One more thing. The buyer of the flawed CPO GTS traded a Ferrari 430 for that car. I think it's safe to assume he didn't take the GTS he bought to the cheapest least reputable body shop in town to have the car evaluated.

 

but honestly would anyone here trade in Their Ferrari 430 sight unseen for another car?

 

One would wish, but the second last PPI I had done on a used 911 in 2017 missed that the entire rear quarter panel had been repainted and a paint touch up and correction spot on the passenger door in the area below below the rear rear view mirror. The last PPI I had on a 911 did not mention curb rash to wheel and cracks and piece missing on front lip in front of the wheel with a rash. Both the these issues were far worse and more obvious than the photos in the 2013 thread you posted.

RE: My Thoughts on the 2013 Thread Complaints

Based on the photos I posed, the purchaser was being a bit of a Prima Donna or perhaps a bit incongruent. He said the pain was worn down and low all over the car, but only posted a picture of a single paint meter reading that was within in spec and from the cabriolet top cover piece that likely has the thinnest paint on the car out of the factory and he measured all the way up next to the top at the seal. The tiny wheel rash was not horrible, the picture of the hood by the window is pretty common for black paint. The scratches cabriolet top apparently went away as he did not complain about that and agreed it was any fix.

This, however, was 2013 so the the car was only 1 or 2 years old and actually still covered by factory warranty so you would expect cleaner. What his photos showed for a car today, 10 years old, would be normal wear and tear and I still question the veracity of his paint thin claims.

 

It is always in the back of my mind as well when I drive these nice, beautiful 997.2s which are such low production compared to the over/mass produced, commercialized 991s.

My 2012 GTS had 29k miles when I purchased it in October 2019. I just went over 50,000 miles this past week so I have put about 21k miles on the car in only 10 months. Killing the value of it, but loving every minute of it. These are great daily driver cars.

 

Hi Guys - I need some pricing help. I have a low mileage (19,740), unmolested 2009 C2S with 6MT, adaptive sport seats and full leather. Clean title, clean carfax, and no paintwork. Black exterior with a two tone Black / Carrera Red interior. DME shows 733 range 1 ignitions that last happened in 2014. I realize that the red may limit the appeal but is this a $60's car? Thanks, Dave

 

I think you could get 60k or possibly more if you want to wait for the right buyer. Range 1 is a non factor so all good there.

 

...and if you are the original owner and have all records, that would help.

 

This car configuration could play very well on BAT...

 

I also felt guilty about HPDE with the 997 - 11, C2S manual. So we added a disposable car for that, 86 951 Turbo. I enjoy the 997.2 as a nice weather daily. Although with a few others in the rotation the 997.2 doesn’t see as much use as originally planned.
I do enjoy it every chance I get

 

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