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Old 06-08-2020, 03:44 PM
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I’m doing some early on research on a possible future 997 purchase. Which 997 models are available…….

WITH: wide-body, NA engine, PDK, sport adaptive seats, chrono, and PASM

WITHOUT: IMS issues

Any drive (RWD or AWD) would be acceptable at this point.


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Assuming we aren't talking about GTS, GT3 or GT2...
- Wide body will only be your "S" models.
- Normally Aspirated stopped in '16 with the 3.0 turbo.
- Practically no IMS issues after about 2006 (though depending on who you ask, Bore Scoring is the new boogeyman).
- PDK started in '09, so if that's a deal-breaker, 997.2 and subsequent models.

So it sounds like you need between an '09 and '16 S or 4S. Of course, I'm new here so I may have mis/understated some of the above.

Good luck with your hunt!
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WITH = 997.2 4S Carrera 4 & GTS & GTS 4 2009-2012 I might be forgetting Targa models also

WITHOUT IMS = 2006 & on however this does not meet your WITH requirements
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I thought the 4 and 4S models were wide body and all others narrow on the 997?
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Originally Posted by BaileyII
WITH = 997.2 4S Carrera 4 & GTS & GTS 4 2009-2012 I might be forgetting Targa models also

WITHOUT IMS = 2006 & on however this does not meet your WITH requirements
Understood. I thought the IMS problem was addressed by Porsche at some point. I was hoping that would coincide with the release of the PDK/997.2 (2009 & onward).
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Originally Posted by Radman73
I thought the 4 and 4S models were wide body and all others narrow on the 997?
997 wide body are the 4 and 4S which are AWD
The GTS is wide body and RWD
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Originally Posted by Ryans Rebel
Understood. I thought the IMS problem was addressed by Porsche at some point. I was hoping that would coincide with the release of the PDK/997.2 (2009 & onward).
No IMS issues with the '09 and later models.

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Originally Posted by dgjks6
997 wide body are the 4 and 4S which are AWD
The GTS is wide body and RWD
Good, I've been shopping correctly lol!
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Standard 997S is not WB.
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If I read correctly {its been awhile} sometime in 2005 Porsche started using dual row IMS bearings. But those are still prone to failure, but not as often. Do some research.
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PDK means 2009 and up 997.2 and 2010 for turbo if I recall correctly.

My 2S is wide enough
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Not only does the .2 not have an IMS it has like 40 percent fewer parts too. The only way to get a wide body is the gts, 4 wheel drive models including the targa and turbo. The only way to to get a RWD wide body car is a gts.
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Originally Posted by Khloesdad
If I read correctly {its been awhile} sometime in 2005 Porsche started using dual row IMS bearings. But those are still prone to failure, but not as often. Do some research.
Not quite... dual row was early 996 986 years.

IMS Dual Row bearing 1998-early-mid 2000. rumors claim very small chance of failure. 2-4%

IMS "Small" Single Row bearing "boogey man" 2001-2005 rumors claim 7-10% chance of failure.

IMS LARGE Single Row bearing "the fix" 2006-2008 rumors claim 1% chance of failure.

2009-2012 new engine design No more IMS bearing.
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Originally Posted by qikqbn
Not quite... dual row was early 996 986 years.

IMS Dual Row bearing 1998-early-mid 2000. rumors claim very small chance of failure. 2-4%

IMS "Small" Single Row bearing "boogey man" 2001-2005 rumors claim 7-10% chance of failure.

IMS LARGE Single Row bearing "the fix" 2006-2008 rumors claim 1% chance of failure.

2009-2012 new engine design No more IMS bearing.
I learn something here everyday.
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Originally Posted by Ryans Rebel
Understood. I thought the IMS problem was addressed by Porsche at some point. I was hoping that would coincide with the release of the PDK/997.2 (2009 & onward).
You're right. No IMS as of -09 and that was also the first year of the PDK. So for for 997 NA wide bodies, 2009-2012 , 4, 4S, both GTS versions (only 2011 & 2012) and the Targa versions. The GT3 RS is NA and wide body but wasn't offered with PDK unless I get all this confused.


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