Window will not lower w. door
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Window will not lower w. door
Suddenly my 997.2 (RS) drivers door will not lower the normal 10mm when you open the door.
Here is the sitaution;
Any thing that can be adjustet...?
Here is the sitaution;
- Window lowers and raises fine up and down with the normal window switch.
- Tried to rest by opening/closing and holding the swith up/down to reset, no change.
- Opening the door from outside the window WILL lower as nornal BUT goes back up as soon you let go of the door handle.
- Pulling the inside handle the window does not react at all.
Any thing that can be adjustet...?
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From: Minneapolis, MN
Suddenly my 997.2 (RS) drivers door will not lower the normal 10mm when you open the door.
Here is the sitaution;
Any thing that can be adjustet...?
Here is the sitaution;
- Window lowers and raises fine up and down with the normal window switch.
- Tried to rest by opening/closing and holding the swith up/down to reset, no change.
- Opening the door from outside the window WILL lower as nornal BUT goes back up as soon you let go of the door handle.
- Pulling the inside handle the window does not react at all.
Any thing that can be adjustet...?
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Maybe try rolling down the window a little, then disconnect & reconnect the battery. After battery reconnect you're required to reset the window position memory by raising both windows all the way up. Hopefully it's just an electrical/sensor problem that's solved via reset.
however, I notice that interioe light does
not come on when I open drivers door, as I does with passenger door.
Is there a specific micro switch for “door closed/open” and where is it placed?
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If you look carefully at the back of the interior silver door handle you pull to open the door, there is a pin molded into the back of it that pushed through a small hole in the door panel and contacts a microswitch. When the door handle is against the panel the window is in its up position. When you pull that handle, the microswitch drops the window. Once the door is open another microswitch h in the latch assembly tells it not to let the window go up until the door is closed. There's another one in the exterior door handle assembly that works like the interior one. I think there's a 4th one somewhere too, but never understood its purpose. From your description it sounds like it's the interior one that works with the silver handle that's not registering when the interior door handle is pulled.
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If you look carefully at the back of the interior silver door handle you pull to open the door, there is a pin molded into the back of it that pushed through a small hole in the door panel and contacts a microswitch. When the door handle is against the panel the window is in its up position. When you pull that handle, the microswitch drops the window. Once the door is open another microswitch h in the latch assembly tells it not to let the window go up until the door is closed. There's another one in the exterior door handle assembly that works like the interior one. I think there's a 4th one somewhere too, but never understood its purpose. From your description it sounds like it's the interior one that works with the silver handle that's not registering when the interior door handle is pulled.
Agree with this. Microswitch inside door connected to door handle. I replaced mine on my own, but it can be frustrating and you'll wish you had smaller hands getting it in and out of there. May want to buy a replacement gasket that goes behind the exterior door handle before you begin, nice to replace this just in case...!
Good luck,.
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Hey everyone! Trying to activate one of a dozen of these window / microswitch / door lock threads as I could not find a single one with a clear solution.
I see @Petza914 having some good inputs, but still need advice.
I have a 997.2 cab with following symptoms:
The only window/lock related microswitch I can find in the 997.2 catalog is: 997 613 125 01, but cannot figure out if this is for the inside or outside handle (or maybe combined for both?)
My best guess for now is that the sensor which recognizes the presence of the tiny pin on the inside door handle is not working. I have tried to manually press that pin (as someone suggested the pin to be worn out), but window still not lowering.
Thanks for any advice what part I should try to replace!
I see @Petza914 having some good inputs, but still need advice.
I have a 997.2 cab with following symptoms:
- Window lowers and raises fine up and down with the window switch.
- Slightly pulling the outside handle DOES lower the window as expected
- Window STAYS lowered while door is open (conclusion - door lock sensor is OK)
- Slightly pulling the inside handle does NOT lower the window. (issue)
- Once I open the inside handle enough to unlock the door, it lowers the window and keeps it lowered.
The only window/lock related microswitch I can find in the 997.2 catalog is: 997 613 125 01, but cannot figure out if this is for the inside or outside handle (or maybe combined for both?)
My best guess for now is that the sensor which recognizes the presence of the tiny pin on the inside door handle is not working. I have tried to manually press that pin (as someone suggested the pin to be worn out), but window still not lowering.
Thanks for any advice what part I should try to replace!
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Your diagnosis is correct. It's the Microsoft behind the door handle that's not recognizing that the handle has been pulled to drop the window. Once the door actually releases the catch, the microswitch in the latch drops it and keeps it dropped.
Pushing the switch behind the handle won't make the window drop, it would make it raise when the door is closed. It's the pin on the handle releasing it's pressure on that switch that makes it drop.
Pushing the switch behind the handle won't make the window drop, it would make it raise when the door is closed. It's the pin on the handle releasing it's pressure on that switch that makes it drop.
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Check item 113726532942 from e***y. It is very easy to swap that switch (needs soldering). But finally I decided to change the whole lock (think of its age!), it's cheap, you'll find a DIY in the database in this great forum!
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Thanks for the quick reply. Yes, I get that pushing the switch won't make the window drop, but I thought that if the switch had got stuck etc, it would help if I press/release it a bunch of times, but it did not..
Cannot find this switch in the part catalog and I guess you don't happen to have a part no in your mind..
Guess I just will open up the door and find the switch and see if I can find the part no written on it, as I anyways will have to open up the door to get it fixed
Found a pretty good video of the steps for anyone who will eventually have to go through the same:
Cheers
Cannot find this switch in the part catalog and I guess you don't happen to have a part no in your mind..
Guess I just will open up the door and find the switch and see if I can find the part no written on it, as I anyways will have to open up the door to get it fixed
Found a pretty good video of the steps for anyone who will eventually have to go through the same:
Cheers
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I feel your pain but this will not solve the problem because it's mechanical wear of the small plastic nose. Do it on a warm day. Quality time with your car ;-)
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When all is said and done, you will find that the culprit is the door latch, not the handle. There is a tiny microswitch in the latch that wears out and is not really replaceable. The latch is a VW part but that will not help you with finding one cheap.. The new latches have a redesign for the button on the switch which is the way it should have been done originally by VW. It is a DIY that requires removing the door panel and the fiddly part is getting the latch out and the new one in but with patience . you can save a bunch of money if you like doing that. The window drop problem can be maddening and intermittent as the worn switch button does not tell the window that the door is open. Report back.
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When all is said and done, you will find that the culprit is the door latch, not the handle. There is a tiny microswitch in the latch that wears out and is not really replaceable. The latch is a VW part but that will not help you with finding one cheap.. The new latches have a redesign for the button on the switch which is the way it should have been done originally by VW. It is a DIY that requires removing the door panel and the fiddly part is getting the latch out and the new one in but with patience . you can save a bunch of money if you like doing that. The window drop problem can be maddening and intermittent as the worn switch button does not tell the window that the door is open. Report back.
- Window STAYS lowered while door is open (conclusion - door lock sensor is OK)
- Slightly pulling the inside handle does NOT lower the window. (issue)
- Once I open the inside handle enough to unlock the door, it lowers the window and keeps it lowered.