If 2012 was when VW bought/took over Porsche, isn’t the 997 the last all Porsche 911?

 

no

 

Yes. It is the last 911 you can work on without plugging in to the Porsche mainframe in Germany.

 

Yes. Watch the guys at the dealership flock when a nice 997 rolls in. I get endless compliments from the service writers, valets, etc.....sales guys not so much. Everyone else yes.

Last analog steering and throttle. Go drive a 991......

 

These threads are a bit silly. I prefer my 997.2 but its holier than thou to say it's the last one. Perhaps when they no longer have an internal combustion engine or when they don't have a rear weight bias. In my mind those are the things that make a "real" 911.

 

What's the throttle difference between a 997 & 991? I understand the steering went from hydraulic to electric assist, but wasn't the 997 an electronic throttle already? I thought only early 996 cars had a cable throttle - all digital since then.

 

No. The 991 is a lovely thing. As is a 992.

 

I think you guys missed his point. Not sure about the 9a1 engine but the car was designed before the VW/Audi merger. Does it make it more a Porsche than the newer ones? Kinda like arguing whether a 76 Rolls is better than a 2010 Rolls or a Countach better then a huracan.

 

There are some that believe the 993 was the last "real" 911 made (but that's what others said about the 964 also). As long as it says 911 on it (somewhere), it's still a 911 (I think).

 

Having owned several 991s (and passing on the 992), I can look back and say that the 997 generation is the last to feel like a pure driver's 911. There are a few exceptions -- my 991.2 GT3 Touring is an unbelievable driver's car. I would not say the 991 or 992 is not a "real 911", but the 997 generation is the pinnacle to me.

 

Bingo! I’m not saying it’s better either...the newer ones are obviously better in every measurable way.

 

Listen to the man above, not that one, the gentleman above! Analog Porsche is a totally different (not better) animal and I happen to really love all the feedback. Drove a 991S and it was like a super sporty Lexus. It’s obviously up to the driver but I cannot wait to get my hands on a 9934S or a GT3 or Turbo 997. 991 was devoid of feeling but hey some people don’t mind condoms either...... choice is up to you. I found the attention my “old” 997 in need of touch up and PDR garnered at the dealership to be disproportionately related to the money I spent, but the sub-991 crowd really dig these cars. The motoring public has no idea what a 993/997/991 etc even is......just drive yours and smile.

 

Some say the "last true 911" was one with an aircooled engine, others use other qualifiers. I like where the 997 sits because it is fast enough when compared to modern cars yet analog enough to really get a lot of drivers feedback. now some may favor one of these areas over the other, so it all depends on where your needle stops. No doubt a 992 is way faster than a 993, and no doubt a 993 offers a ton of feedback to the driver.

 

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What's the fascination with "The-Last-Of" when it comes to Porsche? When I hear people mention the 993 being the last of, it reminds me of @TheBruce thread when he drove a 993.

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