First Porsche, First Post, Hello Everyone!
#16
Congrats and welcome.
I have a very similar setup to you (see my full build and DIY list below) and while the ride is definitely firm I could never go back to stock (but I am comparing from a perspective of Atlanta / Georgia roads).
You mention "19" Sport design wheels", but the pics you posted appear to show the 991 20" wheels.
If that is the case, it would also be a contributing factor.
I have a very similar setup to you (see my full build and DIY list below) and while the ride is definitely firm I could never go back to stock (but I am comparing from a perspective of Atlanta / Georgia roads).
You mention "19" Sport design wheels", but the pics you posted appear to show the 991 20" wheels.
If that is the case, it would also be a contributing factor.
#17
Welcome to the Club! I always say your first Porsche is like taking the red pill... You will never look at cars the same way again! As far as harsh ride... Move out of LA The roads here, especially freeways, suck! Even with PASM the 405/5 fwy will rattle your fillings out. But then again, we have some of the best mountain and canyon roads always close by. Changing wheels, tires, and tire pressure will definitely help, but will also change how the car handles in the canyons if you go more for comfort and softness. I agree with others... If you don't mind the look of 18s with bigger side walls, then those are the best for comfort with your current spring setup.. I have Michelin Sport 4S, eibach springs, on 19s. I love the tire and I avoid the lanes that I know are total junk and torn up, but you can't escape every bad road here in LA... there are just too many!! .
I think I'm ultimately going to find a way to make it work with the 19s cause they look too good and I don't know if I want to jeopardize shelling out a bunch of money for 18s just to be unsatisfied with fitment. Curious if the move to 18s would be significant enough to justify or only a small incremental improvement that wouldn't be worth it. I'll have to try to find somebody with 18s willing to let me take it for a spin.
#18
#19
Welcome! Looks great. I sympathize with your plight; my car is in NYC with PASM with Eibach springs, on 19s. I did acquire some winter wheels (still need to get tires) in 18" and as this will be my first winter with the car, it will be interesting to see how that changes things. I think my Christmas present for myself this year will be the DSC controller...
#21
Welcome! Looks great. I sympathize with your plight; my car is in NYC with PASM with Eibach springs, on 19s. I did acquire some winter wheels (still need to get tires) in 18" and as this will be my first winter with the car, it will be interesting to see how that changes things. I think my Christmas present for myself this year will be the DSC controller...
#22
Welcome to the club. Really nice looking 997. If you have PASM then look into the DSC module. Although I dont have one yet it seems everyone that installed one is quite happy with the overall ride quality.
#23
Welcome!
Great purchase! Enjoy it! I’m not surprised you find the 997 stiff after the 4-series. Those ride like a sofa!
Anyway, no one has mentioned the RSS rear links. My understanding is that those eliminate the stock rubber bushing ends. Not really a weight-bearing part, but if the RSS rod ends are truly heim-jointed, then they could be contributing to your crashy ride. Otherwise, softening tire pressures and loosening the sway bars are your best bet.
On a side note, I had no idea Porsche ever made a 19” version of that wheel. I figured they were 20” when I saw the pic. Are they OEM?
Again, welcome! I think all these little toothing pains will soon be in the rear view and you’ll be loving you ride. Enjoy in good health!
Anyway, no one has mentioned the RSS rear links. My understanding is that those eliminate the stock rubber bushing ends. Not really a weight-bearing part, but if the RSS rod ends are truly heim-jointed, then they could be contributing to your crashy ride. Otherwise, softening tire pressures and loosening the sway bars are your best bet.
On a side note, I had no idea Porsche ever made a 19” version of that wheel. I figured they were 20” when I saw the pic. Are they OEM?
Again, welcome! I think all these little toothing pains will soon be in the rear view and you’ll be loving you ride. Enjoy in good health!
#24
Welcome to the Club! I always say your first Porsche is like taking the red pill... You will never look at cars the same way again! As far as harsh ride... Move out of LA The roads here, especially freeways, suck! Even with PASM the 405/5 fwy will rattle your fillings out. .
To the OP's question, 18" wheels will probably improve your ride somewhat but won't add anything to what looks like a beautiful car imo. If anything I'm almost certain it'll take away from it.
#25
Great purchase! Enjoy it! I’m not surprised you find the 997 stiff after the 4-series. Those ride like a sofa!
Anyway, no one has mentioned the RSS rear links. My understanding is that those eliminate the stock rubber bushing ends. Not really a weight-bearing part, but if the RSS rod ends are truly heim-jointed, then they could be contributing to your crashy ride. Otherwise, softening tire pressures and loosening the sway bars are your best bet.
On a side note, I had no idea Porsche ever made a 19” version of that wheel. I figured they were 20” when I saw the pic. Are they OEM?
Again, welcome! I think all these little toothing pains will soon be in the rear view and you’ll be loving you ride. Enjoy in good health!
Anyway, no one has mentioned the RSS rear links. My understanding is that those eliminate the stock rubber bushing ends. Not really a weight-bearing part, but if the RSS rod ends are truly heim-jointed, then they could be contributing to your crashy ride. Otherwise, softening tire pressures and loosening the sway bars are your best bet.
On a side note, I had no idea Porsche ever made a 19” version of that wheel. I figured they were 20” when I saw the pic. Are they OEM?
Again, welcome! I think all these little toothing pains will soon be in the rear view and you’ll be loving you ride. Enjoy in good health!
Yes I believe the wheels are OEM but i can't say for sure. When I had the PPI completed the mechanic noted that the wheels were very high quality and made in Germany so I presume they are OEM.
#26
Wanted to post an update. Over the last few weeks the ride had gotten increasingly worse and now damping is effectively non-existent. Took it into my indie today and sure enough both of the rear shocks are completely shot. It was what I suspected was happening with the car. Interesting little surprise though... Put the car up on the lift and discovered that there were KW V3 coilovers that had been previously installed. When I bought the car, the paperwork with the had indicated that there were Techart springs installed by Sharkwerks (presumably on the original shocks but can't say for sure). Some time between then and when it was sold to me the prior owner had put on the KWs. Seems unusual that the rears would both be shot by now as it had probably been a little over a year since those were put on. The fronts were completely fine.
Anywho, once the rears are replaced I suspect that most of my issues with the car and ride quality will be cleared up. Thankfully they are fairly adjustable so I should be able to dial in a ride quality that is agreeable! If anyone has used these KW's before would love to hear your settings for street comfort and occasional canyon carving.
Anywho, once the rears are replaced I suspect that most of my issues with the car and ride quality will be cleared up. Thankfully they are fairly adjustable so I should be able to dial in a ride quality that is agreeable! If anyone has used these KW's before would love to hear your settings for street comfort and occasional canyon carving.
#27
I highly doubt the wheels are OEM, I don't think Porsche made that design in a 19" As far as riding closer to the BMW, its not gonna happen and like has been mentioned, the ride provides a ton of driver feedback, which I love. At a level that M cars will never reach. Once I moved from my M3 (with suspension mods) to my 911 (stock suspension at the time), I could never go back.
Also interesting that they did all of those mods, but not a simple Gundo hack. Make sure you know that you don't have the sport exhaust or a gundo or fister mod before you start thinking about doing it.
Also interesting that they did all of those mods, but not a simple Gundo hack. Make sure you know that you don't have the sport exhaust or a gundo or fister mod before you start thinking about doing it.
#28
I highly doubt the wheels are OEM, I don't think Porsche made that design in a 19" As far as riding closer to the BMW, its not gonna happen and like has been mentioned, the ride provides a ton of driver feedback, which I love. At a level that M cars will never reach. Once I moved from my M3 (with suspension mods) to my 911 (stock suspension at the time), I could never go back.
Also interesting that they did all of those mods, but not a simple Gundo hack. Make sure you know that you don't have the sport exhaust or a gundo or fister mod before you start thinking about doing it.
Also interesting that they did all of those mods, but not a simple Gundo hack. Make sure you know that you don't have the sport exhaust or a gundo or fister mod before you start thinking about doing it.
You might be right on the wheels, I've never seen them as a 19". They do look good though!
#29
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I highly doubt the wheels are OEM, I don't think Porsche made that design in a 19" As far as riding closer to the BMW, its not gonna happen and like has been mentioned, the ride provides a ton of driver feedback, which I love. At a level that M cars will never reach. Once I moved from my M3 (with suspension mods) to my 911 (stock suspension at the time), I could never go back.
Also interesting that they did all of those mods, but not a simple Gundo hack. Make sure you know that you don't have the sport exhaust or a gundo or fister mod before you start thinking about doing it.
Also interesting that they did all of those mods, but not a simple Gundo hack. Make sure you know that you don't have the sport exhaust or a gundo or fister mod before you start thinking about doing it.
#30
They are in the style of the carrera classic wheel from the 991, but those were only made in 20" as far as I can tell. The wheels on my car are 19s. For what it's worth, the inside of the wheel is printed that they are made in Germany but I have not been able to find a source that says these would be OEM in that size.