What's the most comfortable 997 suspension available?
#1
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What's the most comfortable 997 suspension available?
Besides stock.
I'm interested in a lowered ride with the best balance of sporty/comfortable ride. Is it SPASM with DSC?
I'm interested in a lowered ride with the best balance of sporty/comfortable ride. Is it SPASM with DSC?
#2
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Do you have a 997.1 or .2?
The DSC can set shocks at a lower firmness than what Porsche programmed into the stock systems, so yes, DSC can make a softer ride. But, DSC will stiffen up quickly depending on a variety of inputs such as g-forces (assuming you have a .2 or install the DSC accelerometer on a .1). IMO, there is no cheaper way to soften the suspension as the DSC is cheaper than say buying 4 softer shocks.
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The DSC can set shocks at a lower firmness than what Porsche programmed into the stock systems, so yes, DSC can make a softer ride. But, DSC will stiffen up quickly depending on a variety of inputs such as g-forces (assuming you have a .2 or install the DSC accelerometer on a .1). IMO, there is no cheaper way to soften the suspension as the DSC is cheaper than say buying 4 softer shocks.
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Bruce in Philly
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I would agree. PASM with DSC should be a little more comfortable than SPASM given the slightly lower spring rates of the standard springs, however, you want lowered, so there is the question. Unless you can find the springs rates, it's not possible to give advice between the SPASM spring, Eibach/Techart or H&R. The standard PASM dampers or Bilstein equivalent with the DSC are going to give you control over the compression damping, which will affect the feeling of comfort. The lowest spring rate of the aftermarket options will give you the best comfort.
However, you'll need to do some tuning with that combination to ensure you do not bottom out the shocks.
However, you'll need to do some tuning with that combination to ensure you do not bottom out the shocks.
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Liste-Renn (12-28-2023)
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Originally Posted by hexagone
Wanted to bump this up.
Anyone have any thoughts about GT3 coilovers + DSC box?
Anyone have any thoughts about GT3 coilovers + DSC box?
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Liste-Renn (12-28-2023)
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InspectorSeb (12-30-2023)
#11
Nordschleife Master
On my third 997, all three with PASM and H&R springs. Have not been able to tell the difference between stock ride comfort and H&R. But then, I didn't buy a 997 with comfort in mind no matter what the suspension configuration so my take on this may not be a good representation. All things considered I actually think the 997's are quiet comfortable lowered or not but we do have good roads in southwest Florida which may play into the equation.
#12
Three Wheelin'
It really just matters on how much money you are willing to spend in 2020.
Stock PASM Dampers + DSC + Eibachs would be lower and tuneable to as comfort driven as possible.
Custom Electronic Dampers + DSC + Custom valved electronically adjustable Shocks (like tractive and soon from everyone else too I am assuming) would be tuneable and could be as comfortable as you have patience to tune to.
I thought OEM stock the 997.1 C2S was too soft. I felt that OEM dampers with Eibachs were not really stiffer perceivably but was lower.
One of my previous cars went through 5 suspension set ups from 2008-2016. The last 3 were mainly changing damper valving and springs.
What I found from this was that even with a set up that was butter on the street, could be super fast on the track. I had longer travel linear springs mated to properly valved dampers so that the springs were allowing the dampers to do their job. I also had upgraded poly bushings all over rather than hard spherical bushings/bearings.
This was a building process though from lowering springs with stock shocks, to upgraded swift springs + bilstein shocks, to KW Clubsports, then the clubsports tuned by one suspension guru with all hard bushings, to the clubsports tuned by a different suspension guru with all upgraded whiteline poly bushings, and then tuned one last time to perfection by the same guy.
Some would say, O C D. Cool. Whatever. I felt like it would be possible to have a very streetable suspension that is also fast at the track. I think the more electronically adjustable suspension progresses, the more this will be possible.
Stock PASM Dampers + DSC + Eibachs would be lower and tuneable to as comfort driven as possible.
Custom Electronic Dampers + DSC + Custom valved electronically adjustable Shocks (like tractive and soon from everyone else too I am assuming) would be tuneable and could be as comfortable as you have patience to tune to.
I thought OEM stock the 997.1 C2S was too soft. I felt that OEM dampers with Eibachs were not really stiffer perceivably but was lower.
One of my previous cars went through 5 suspension set ups from 2008-2016. The last 3 were mainly changing damper valving and springs.
What I found from this was that even with a set up that was butter on the street, could be super fast on the track. I had longer travel linear springs mated to properly valved dampers so that the springs were allowing the dampers to do their job. I also had upgraded poly bushings all over rather than hard spherical bushings/bearings.
This was a building process though from lowering springs with stock shocks, to upgraded swift springs + bilstein shocks, to KW Clubsports, then the clubsports tuned by one suspension guru with all hard bushings, to the clubsports tuned by a different suspension guru with all upgraded whiteline poly bushings, and then tuned one last time to perfection by the same guy.
Some would say, O C D. Cool. Whatever. I felt like it would be possible to have a very streetable suspension that is also fast at the track. I think the more electronically adjustable suspension progresses, the more this will be possible.
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Another one that costs a lot... It is oem and called the Panamera but seriously, I was looking for the same thing and have found that Eibach makes for a ride as comfortable (some say more, but I'll see that for myself, as I will be installing mine over the winter) as the stock ride. It lowers a ''4,4S'' by 0.78 inch and should be just right IMO.
#14
Three Wheelin'
B16 Standard (for PASM) combined with DSC controller should get you there. You'll get lowering with matched damping. And the B16 with DSC together has a wider ranger of firmness than DSC combined with OE PASM controller.
I haven't done this but I've researched this a good bit.
I haven't done this but I've researched this a good bit.
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hamishpotter (07-04-2021)
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I went with Techart springs and DSC and am happy with it. PASM in normal mode is pretty smooth on all but the worst roads, and it’s less bouncy than it was with OEM. In Sport mode, it’s firm but not as jarring as OEM was.
Sometimes I do wonder what 18” wheels would be like.
Sometimes I do wonder what 18” wheels would be like.