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Old 06-19-2019, 04:58 PM
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Have you had quality seat time in a C4S and compared it to a C2/C2S? I had a 2003 C4S, but I sold it mostly because it felt too heavy to me. I prefer lighter cars. I have owned my 997.2 C2 PDK for 6 years and love it. Does it look as good as a C4S, of course not. But it feels better to me from behind the wheel. It didn't have Sport Chrono, but I added the software upgrade/switch panel to get the benefits of Sport and Sport Plus modes without the "wart" on the dash. I feel I got the best of both worlds. If I didn't need a back seat for grandkids, I'd probably get another Boxster or Cayman, just for the lightness.
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Noob to the 997 question

are all the 997.2 clear of the IMS issues?

are all the 997.1 not ???

or was there a certain year to look out for?
Old 06-19-2019, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SoCal-NSX
Noob to the 997 question

are all the 997.2 clear of the IMS issues?

are all the 997.1 not ???

or was there a certain year to look out for?
There are people that have dedicated their careers to this one subject. A lot of nuances -

Read some of these and determine your own risk tolerance for the 997 engines.

https://www.google.com/search?client...-d&q=997.1+ims
Old 06-19-2019, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SoCal-NSX
Noob to the 997 question

are all the 997.2 clear of the IMS issues?

are all the 997.1 not ???

or was there a certain year to look out for?
The .2 doesn't have an IMS bearing. The engineers re-designed the entire engine and there is no IMS bearing in the new engine. Early 2005 and some 2006 had a smaller IMS bearing which must be replaced. From 2007 on you're pretty darn safe. If it's too scary for you, which is understandable, just get a .2
Old 06-19-2019, 08:03 PM
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You said auto was ok, so I'll go contrarian. Look for an 06 -08 C4S cab tiptronic with low miles, put the big dollars saved toward those turbo wheels(I got a good used set shipped for $1400) and fister exhaust model if no PSE, so you can enjoy the sounds top down. The Tip is supposed to be reliable and it was good enough for plenty of turbo buyers. You will have money to spare for the unexpected Porsche tax when something goes wrong.
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Originally Posted by C4SDayton
You said auto was ok, so I'll go contrarian. Look for an 06 -08 C4S cab tiptronic with low miles, put the big dollars saved toward those turbo wheels(I got a good used set shipped for $1400) and fister exhaust model if no PSE, so you can enjoy the sounds top down. The Tip is supposed to be reliable and it was good enough for plenty of turbo buyers. You will have money to spare for the unexpected Porsche tax when something goes wrong.
This is pretty much my plan. $1400 for the set of wheels seems cheap to me!! How much is the Fister exhaust? The perfect car has been available for over 6 months but it has 86k miles, so I just can't. But he's asking $33k. Hoping to find one for $39k+/- with less miles and I'll be good to go.

Yeah like I said, I've driven a manual for SEVEN years. Sure it's great in the twisties, but not much fun anywhere else. So I'm not too worried about the tiptronic. And I'll have to pay $3k to repair the clutch exactly never, haha!!! But most I find are manual and that'll be great too.
Old 06-19-2019, 09:11 PM
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It's too bad you have to have a black C4. I am selling my blue 997.2 C2S cab with PDK and 55k miles.
Old 06-20-2019, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Balr14
It's too bad you have to have a black C4. I am selling my blue 997.2 C2S cab with PDK and 55k miles.
That's a beauty......very sharp! Great color but I'm partial to blue LOL!

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Originally Posted by snaphappy
The .2 doesn't have an IMS bearing. The engineers re-designed the entire engine and there is no IMS bearing in the new engine. Early 2005 and some 2006 had a smaller IMS bearing which must be replaced. From 2007 on you're pretty darn safe. If it's too scary for you, which is understandable, just get a .2
Early build 05s have the smaller IMS bearing but it was changed mid-year that year. Any MY 2006 should lave the larger bearing. Any 05 (even later year builds) need to be checked visually to be 100% certain, which means removing the transmission and pulling the IMS bearing flange.
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Do you guys recommend joining the PCA "Test Drive" to browse PCA classifieds? Will there be cars for sale there that I just won't find anywhere else? Thanks!
Old 06-25-2019, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by snaphappy
I'm hoping like $39k but for the right car I might be willing to go up to $44k. I've seen several that are close to what I want for $35ish. As far as driving, I do about 6000 miles a year, I drive 1-4 times a week probably, short distances mostly. I do turn my own wrenches on basic things, such as brakes, AC, alternators, stuff like that. I suck at electric/under the dash stuff.

My dream car is a 4S cab, black w/sand or natural leather, really really want full leather. I want Turbo wheels, but I'll get those later if necessary. Also want under 70k miles. That way I'll probably never reach 100k. Either transmission is fine. I've driven a stick shift for the last 7 years. So an auto might be kinda nice. I don't care about how bad the tiptronic is, but PDK sounds VERY exciting! Manual is great too! The main reason I kinda want to skip the manual = clutch replacement. Autos seem pretty bulletproof.
there are a lot of variables there. If you are going Auto, this SIGNIFICANTLY puts the .2 as a better choice. You say you don't care now, but believe me, you will care. If not, you can get plenty of 997.1 autos with a cab for very little coin. Not sure why a clutch replacement would be enough to avoid a manual, but so be it.
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Originally Posted by snaphappy
Do you guys recommend joining the PCA "Test Drive" to browse PCA classifieds? Will there be cars for sale there that I just won't find anywhere else? Thanks!
Joining the PCA is always a good idea. I've seen under priced Boxsters and vastly over priced air cooled 911s and everything in between. All things equal, I'd rather buy from an avid PCA member than a dealer trying to make a profit.



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