Spilled oil all over engine compartment
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Spilled oil all over engine compartment
So last week I took my 997.2 C4S to a local shop specializing in Porsche for an oil change. Really nice guy and seems like a very knowledgeable and competent technician. Unfortunately I think I spent too much time engaging him in conversation and he forgot to tighten the oil filter housing after filling the car with oil. He then started the engine and literally four quarts of oil gushed out from the filter housing and all over the engine bay, covering everything. It was a huge mess. I worried initially about whether there was any damage to the engine from running while the oil supply was being rapidly depleted but the car seems to be running fine. My major concern at this point is the fact that to clean the oil from the engine compartment the technician used solvent and sprayed it everywhere. He then steam cleaned the engine and resprayed the solvent a second time. Then to top it off, he used a hose to literally wash out the engine compartment from above and below as there was still oil dripping down from what I assume were crevices he couldn’t reach with the solvent or steam cleaner.
My big concern at this point is whether damage was done to the engine or electrical system that may not surface right away. Again, all seems fine right now and my engine is sparkling clean. But if something fails, ie a sensor or alternator I worry whether he will take responsibility for it. Any advice?
My big concern at this point is whether damage was done to the engine or electrical system that may not surface right away. Again, all seems fine right now and my engine is sparkling clean. But if something fails, ie a sensor or alternator I worry whether he will take responsibility for it. Any advice?
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As long as you didn’t develop a knock all the the oil was on the bottom side. It’s going to be ok.
It either did did damage or didn’t, and you would know immediately.
It either did did damage or didn’t, and you would know immediately.
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You're fine.
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Yes I was very angry about it. He felt very badly and didn’t charge me for the oil/filter change. Oh and the engine steam cleaning was thrown in as a bonus Hopefully no damage was done in the process.
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Please post in a few weeks on how the engine is running. I want to hose down my engine bay ... so darn filthy.... but I am always afraid to do it. Did they cover up anything when he hosed it?
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Man that sucks.
The spilled oil and concern about engine damage isn't really a concern as I'm assuming the car was shut off pretty quickly upon the gusher starting.
Steam cleaning an engine is a terrible thing to do. Sure it makes it look great. but the water molecules in steam are moving so fast they can penetrate electrical connection seals that were made to be water proof, not steam proof. Pressure washing an engine is the next worse thing you can do. Engines should be cleaned using a rag, an aluminum safe cleaner, and elbow grease. A regular hose wash down is OK if need be since that's pretty much what happens to the engine when you drive in a heavy rain, but you should cover the alternator windings if you have the option to. Unfortulately, you may not see the effects of this for a little while, but if you start developing misfires, other odd running behavior, or voltage issues in the next couple weeks to 3 months, you'll know the cause.
The spilled oil and concern about engine damage isn't really a concern as I'm assuming the car was shut off pretty quickly upon the gusher starting.
Steam cleaning an engine is a terrible thing to do. Sure it makes it look great. but the water molecules in steam are moving so fast they can penetrate electrical connection seals that were made to be water proof, not steam proof. Pressure washing an engine is the next worse thing you can do. Engines should be cleaned using a rag, an aluminum safe cleaner, and elbow grease. A regular hose wash down is OK if need be since that's pretty much what happens to the engine when you drive in a heavy rain, but you should cover the alternator windings if you have the option to. Unfortulately, you may not see the effects of this for a little while, but if you start developing misfires, other odd running behavior, or voltage issues in the next couple weeks to 3 months, you'll know the cause.
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Its a freakin miracle! Is it just me or does it look like his car gave birth??
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I hose my engine down all the time including using Simple Green or an orange cleaner. I then dry with rags and go to town on all the black rubber/plastic bits with ArmorAll. I've never had a problem.
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Simple Green is great, but it will take the zinc right off the plated parts. Never use it on an engine that has been redone for show. It is also quite corrosive to aluminum, and will affect ground cables and connections (ask me how I know). The key for these latter things is to rinse it off right away.
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When I engine clean I like to warm up the engine just a bit, but not too hot that it evaporates any cleaner or water I spray on. I use a soapy orange degreaser first, forgot the name, and let it soak for less than a minute while I go and grab the hose. I then use a "flat" spray pattern nozzle so it is not a direct jet stream of water. Use quick bursts while waving across the engine. I never shoot or spray water directly at any electrical components or connections. Just keep the spray moving and short bursts. Wipe down and detail. Then run engine to normal 200 degree operating temps to evaporate any left over water hard to reach.... Words of advice... NEVER wipe down an engine while it is running!!! I have seen towels get snagged and caught up in the rotating belts or even worse I know a few who lost finger!!
Hope you have no issues with smell or components...
Hope you have no issues with smell or components...