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Before pic of my GTS with regular PASM, stock springs, and stock Spyder wheels. After pic with H&R springs and replacement wheels - OEM GT3 (front) / GT3RS (rear). It's amazing how much difference in appearance 1.25" will make. Also, the tucked in look of the stock GT Spyder wheel that sandwedge mentioned is easily visible as well. This was fixed with the more aggressive offsets of the GT3/GT3RS wheels as well as slightly larger tires.
I couldn't tell any difference in ride quality from stock, but that may have as much to do adding new tires as anything. Handling has definitely improved since adding the H&Rs.
I'm sure it's been discussed in other threads, but for those of you with H&R and DSC - does the DSC mitigate the purported worsening of ride quality of the springs?
I'm sure it's been discussed in other threads, but for those of you with H&R and DSC - does the DSC mitigate the purported worsening of ride quality of the springs?
"Purported" being the key word here. I haven't noticed any difference in ride quality, so not sure how much difference a DSC controller would make for this purpose.
I removed H&R springs from my 2010 S this past weekend. I was scraping too much for my liking in normal driving. The car does have a Techart front spoiler on it.
I did not find the ride quality poor with the springs. The car looked killer with that much drop.
I installed the stock sport pasm springs back on the car and it raised it approx. 3/4". I will add some pics when I have time to take them. Going to the dealer for alignment Saturday.
Before pic of my GTS with regular PASM, stock springs, and stock Spyder wheels. After pic with H&R springs and replacement wheels - OEM GT3 (front) / GT3RS (rear). It's amazing how much difference in appearance 1.25" will make. Also, the tucked in look of the stock GT Spyder wheel that sandwedge mentioned is easily visible as well. This was fixed with the more aggressive offsets of the GT3/GT3RS wheels as well as slightly larger tires.
I couldn't tell any difference in ride quality from stock, but that may have as much to do adding new tires as anything. Handling has definitely improved since adding the H&Rs.
what size tires are you running? I have 245 in the front but couldn’t find 315’s except in sport cup 2’s.
I'm sure it's been discussed in other threads, but for those of you with H&R and DSC - does the DSC mitigate the purported worsening of ride quality of the springs?
I added DSC after putting on the Techart and the difference was not subtle. Much more comfortable in normal mode without being as bouncy, and firmer but still comfortable in sport mode while tightening up quickly when you would expect. I have to believe it would do the same with H&R. But if you’re scraping, it won’t do anything about that.
Before pic of my GTS with regular PASM, stock springs, and stock Spyder wheels. After pic with H&R springs and replacement wheels - OEM GT3 (front) / GT3RS (rear). It's amazing how much difference in appearance 1.25" will make. Also, the tucked in look of the stock GT Spyder wheel that sandwedge mentioned is easily visible as well. This was fixed with the more aggressive offsets of the GT3/GT3RS wheels as well as slightly larger tires.
I couldn't tell any difference in ride quality from stock, but that may have as much to do adding new tires as anything. Handling has definitely improved since adding the H&Rs.
Pure perfection imo. I knew the GT3 wheels has a more aggressive offset than the GTS setup but didn't realize it was that much of a difference. It's a side shot but they sure look flush to me. And who can argue with that drop. Also agree that the difference in ride quality between stock and H&R's is unnoticeable.
Well done sourcing a set of GT3 RS wheels. Plain 997 GT3 wheels would have looked the same up front but less successful on the rears since the 997 GT3 was a NB. I'll never understand why they didn't do the same offset treatment on the GTS as for the GT3's. It's a big difference and an expensive difference to fix if you have a GTS with CL wheels which most are.
Florida H&R springs, and no road toronto H&R springs, are totally different.
24k of butt time, I don't know if I would do it again. As a four season car.
It bottomed out in road compression, and dragged in snow. I could not fit my cellphone on its side under the car.
Fantastic on the highway.
If your looking to mod your exhaust, I have a 997.2 set up in my garage? Two suit cases and a center.
And some 997.2 stock springs ....
Pure perfection imo. I knew the GT3 wheels has a more aggressive offset than the GTS setup but didn't realize it was that much of a difference. It's a side shot but they sure look flush to me. And who can argue with that drop. Also agree that the difference in ride quality between stock and H&R's is unnoticeable.
Well done sourcing a set of GT3 RS wheels. Plain 997 GT3 wheels would have looked the same up front but less successful on the rears since the 997 GT3 was a NB. I'll never understand why they didn't do the same offset treatment on the GTS as for the GT3's. It's a big difference and an expensive difference to fix if you have a GTS with CL wheels which most are.
Thanks, sandwedge! Just trying to keep up with the perfection of your car! I also don't understand why Porsche didn't adjust the offset properly. Here is a pic that shows how the more aggressive offset makes them perfectly flush. One thing to note for GTS owners, the proper set up is wide body GT3RS wheels in the rear and narrow body standard GT3 wheels in the front. The GT3RS has a wider front track so the front wheels will have too aggressive of an offset for the GTS. Luckily I was able to source a mixed set from another RL member.
Thanks, sandwedge! Just trying to keep up with the perfection of your car! I also don't understand why Porsche didn't adjust the offset properly. Here is a pic that shows how the more aggressive offset makes them perfectly flush. One thing to note for GTS owners, the proper set up is wide body GT3RS wheels in the rear and narrow body standard GT3 wheels in the front. The GT3RS has a wider front track so the front wheels will have too aggressive of an offset for the GTS. Luckily I was able to source a mixed set from another RL member.
Good info. Didn't know that. Thought all 997's had the same front track, just different offsets for different models. Either way, your car looks killer. Can't believe you managed to find a set of GT3 fronts and a set of GT3 RS rears. What are the odds of that happening? Btw....as much as I like my Forgeline wheels I've always had a soft spot in my heart for the GT3 wheels you sourced. If I end up with another 997 GTS I would seriously look for a set like yours. But again, fat chance. I think you really lucked out here.
Good info. Didn't know that. Thought all 997's had the same front track, just different offsets for different models. Either way, your car looks killer. Can't believe you managed to find a set of GT3 fronts and a set of GT3 RS rears. What are the odds of that happening? Btw....as much as I like my Forgeline wheels I've always had a soft spot in my heart for the GT3 wheels you sourced. If I end up with another 997 GTS I would seriously look for a set like yours. But again, fat chance. I think you really lucked out here.
Yes, fortunate that a fellow GTS owner in this forum (MJTSUB) had these on his car and listed for sale after changing to a set of HRE wheels. Perfect timing as I had been looking for a set of GT3/GT3RS. MJTSUB has ended up being a great friend and a wealth of knowledge, and I have taken a lot of his advice. Nice to be able to tap into the wealth of knowledge of Rennlist members.
04-02-2019, 07:31 PM
