The average used PDK I assume is over 3k more than otherwise equal MT variant to account for original cost differential. Do most first owners(leases) buy cars off the lot or order them? Alot of dealers seem to not have alot of stock, so I assume they order more PDK in silver and black and gray and white instead of MT in red and yellow because they don't want stock sitting too long. Alot of the younger, less than 45-50yo people I know that could afford a new Porsche didn't drive a manual growing up and aren't going to start on their new Porsche. Demographics have changed. In an ideal world I'd want a manual for street and PDK for track. I suppose I'd like the better mpg of the PDK too, but my last Audi cruised at less than 1500rpm unless I kept in sport or manually kept in lower gear, and then the mpg improvement wasn't that much.

 

Porsche and the 911 as we know it are quickly disappearing .... Just look at the 992 . I get why Porsche is doing what they are doing to stay competitive and viable business. Marketing dictates where a brand and model direction should go and we are not the mass demographic or the brands future.

PDK transmissions preferred over manual , Touring cars , driving management systems , Glitsy consoles with waaay too may electronics , Fake vents for styling , the list goes on and on. This is what the masses want and rest assured Porsche has spent a ton of cash ensuring proper research into what will sell into the future.

Just sucks for guys and gals like us who want what Porsche of the past has always given us ... just a little better each time up until now.

 

Such nonsense. The PDK will not allow you to lug the engine under any circumstances. Steady cruising at 50 mph in 7th gear does not lug the engine. Any attempt to accelerate or fall below 50 causes an immediate downshift. It will not allow you to upshift if it would cause the engine to lug. You are at more risk of lugging the engine with a manual transmission. Admittedly, there may be cause for future concern over the PDK. If they can't get a $35k engine right, what are the odds they can get a $15k transmission right?

 

Well, where they at long last need to arrive is to allow Porsche mechanics in the US and other countries to open the PDK's up and repair them instead of the current nonsense of shipping broken ones to Germany, giving the customer no choice but to buy a replacement unit. New or rebuilt it'll be a minimum of $10K and I think you're lucky to find a good one at that price point. Mine was $14,000 from the dealer, warrantied for 2 years as I recall it. Don't know if it was a rebuilt unit or brand new.

Yes, you can source salvage PDK's but the dealership I deal with would refuse to install it. Take your chance with the salvage unit to begin with and then another gamble with an indy who probably doesn't know much about it.

 

 

 

Not sure if collectors will want to worry about a PDK issue in 20 years. If it's a low mile one that sits than maybe so. Also, despite the notion that 993 C2S manuals should be more desirable, the 993 C4Ss seem to fetch more at least on BAT.

 

Thanks for all the replies. With respect to all the comments about the Carrera 4 Cabriolet, I agree that this is probably due to the limited supply of cars. There were only indeed about 12 for sale in the whole German market. Perhaps I can find somewhere the production numbers.

Thanks, I will post the video about the Carrera S next week. I'm currently also working on a US version. The depreciation analysis itself is easy to repeat but it is a little bit more difficult to get the data. I'm curious to find out if there are major differences with Europe.

Well, I'm not perfect. English is not my mother tongue (as you can tell) and I do my best to make the videos as engaging as possible. It is a fine line between 'boring' and 'too much going on'.


I think both of these statements make sense. The data for the 997 indeed confirms that there is no visible effect. The way I see it, this is mainly due to the PDK boxes which offer (for the first time?) a solid performance benefit when compared to the manuals. However, there is a strong effect visible for the 996 and this makes one wonder if it is due to the age or due to the fact that the Tiptronic simply isn't as good as the PDK. It would be interesting to see how the 996 was doing when they had the same age as the current 997.

 

For those of you interested, this is the video about the S models:

 

I’m a newbie. What does facelift mean?

 

Same as in women.

 

Gotta love pc? My wife told me she would not get a repainting regardless of how much it would increase her value!

 

Same topic, different car. For those of you interested, I made a same type of analysis for the 996 turbo (see the link below). The prices for the 996 Turbo have been increasing steadily over the last few years and this definitely shows in the market. Model year is no longer having an effect on the price of the car and price fluctuations are huge. I came across cars prices at EUR 280k.

 

Interesting data as of June 2019 ..

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifi...05&YearTo=2007

Manual and tiptronic s 997.1 are still sold without a price difference.
The determining data are the condition of the vehicle, mileage, the state of the market in that country, supply and demand and additions (sports seats / chrono sports, etc.).

 

I believe the 997.1 is non facelift and 997.2 is the facelift model.