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Old 03-09-2019, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by rmstar
Unless you need money, keep it. The 2012 4GTS with manual is extremely rare and yours is very low mileage. I would pay you $70K right now without checking with my wife :-)
Only 436 2012 GTS were made
http://howtoporsche.com/911-series/9...r-and-version/
This list seems incomplete. It shows 2265 Carrera GTS Coupe's for 2011 and none for 2012, and I have one.
Old 03-09-2019, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by GTS Sully
This list seems incomplete. It shows 2265 Carrera GTS Coupe's for 2011 and none for 2012, and I have one.
I have a 2012 997 C2S coupe, which is also not shown on the list. The answer lies in the difference between production month and "model year" I think. My car was manufactured in July 2011 and then sold as a 2012 model year car.
Old 03-09-2019, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Balr14
I guess I don't know what that feels like. I have never developed emotional attachments to any car.
You are very lucky in that respect!
Old 03-09-2019, 01:44 PM
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If you are a collector, then keep it and use it when you have some time to exercise it.

If you are a Porsche enthusiast, and really cannot find the time to use it, what is the point of having it your garage.

Sell it.
Old 03-09-2019, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Tcc1999


You are very lucky in that respect!
I would not call it lucky. It makes being satisfied with any car very difficult. If all you have is a list of pros and cons, buying a used Porsche is a truly bad idea.
Old 03-09-2019, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by nick2413
Your car is worth a lot more than 70k.
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Old 03-09-2019, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by nick2413
Your car is worth a lot more than 70k.
That's why everyone is offering to buy it for $70k LOL
Old 03-09-2019, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by quickxotica
I have a 2012 997 C2S coupe, which is also not shown on the list. The answer lies in the difference between production month and "model year" I think. My car was manufactured in July 2011 and then sold as a 2012 model year car.
Same as me. Interesting. Guess there's nothing distinctive between a 2011 and 2012 model year.
Old 03-09-2019, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by sandwedge
Which brought me to one angle of this dilemma that I don't think has been discussed yet. Although the 4 GTS was built in fewer numbers than the regular RWD GTS, I've seen arguments here and elsewhere that the regular RWD 997 GTS will be and perhaps already is the most desirable of the two. Why? Some see the 4 GTS as a common C4S with the X51 kit, some alcantera, CL wheels most of the time and a few other extras. The "plain" RWD 997 GTS on the other hand is the only 997 wide body with rear wheel drive except for the GT3 RS and the GT2 so a pretty exclusive club. Whether or not there's validity to this argument, I don't know. Time will tell but I can see the reasoning behind it.
Very true. This is one of the fine angles to the topic. I have always wondered about the difference among both and originally started looking for the RWD GTS.

Originally Posted by mjsporsche
If you are a collector, then keep it and use it when you have some time to exercise it.

If you are a Porsche enthusiast, and really cannot find the time to use it, what is the point of having it your garage.

Sell it.
I am a hybrid, I guess. A Porsche enthusiast that is truly enjoying the conversation with you guys about what to do with our toys....

Originally Posted by Petza914
That's why everyone is offering to buy it for $70k LOL
So much kindness is overwhelming
Old 03-09-2019, 07:29 PM
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Simply, Hang onto her for as long as you can
Old 03-09-2019, 08:05 PM
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If you believe the 4GTS is simply a C4S in wolf's clothing then sell because adding more mileage will bring down its desirability. I'm joking The car wears the GTS badge with all the accoutrements making it's a special car. I haven't checked but I read somewhere that 4GTS all wheel drive system (front diff) is more in common with the 997 Turbo S (minus the HP) and if it fails (god forbid) you can't swap or use the C4S part. Maybe this can be added to the short list of things which makes the 4GTS different from the C4S. So drive it and enjoy. You'll eventually know when you're ready to sell.
Old 03-10-2019, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by sandwedge
Which brought me to one angle of this dilemma that I don't think has been discussed yet. Although the 4 GTS was built in fewer numbers than the regular RWD GTS, I've seen arguments here and elsewhere that the regular RWD 997 GTS will be and perhaps already is the most desirable of the two. Why? Some see the 4 GTS as a common C4S with the X51 kit, some alcantera, CL wheels most of the time and a few other extras. The "plain" RWD 997 GTS on the other hand is the only 997 wide body with rear wheel drive except for the GT3 RS and the GT2 so a pretty exclusive club. Whether or not there's validity to this argument, I don't know. Time will tell but I can see the reasoning behind it.
Very sound rationale sandwedge. Projecting the desirability of 997.2 GTS models over the long-term, I would rank as follows: (1) Carrera GTS coupe manual; (2) Carrera GTS coupe PDK; (3) Carrera 4 GTS coupe manual; (4) Carrera 4 GTS coupe PDK; (5) Carerra GTS/4 GTS cabriolets manual followed by PDK. Always remember...CLEAN, well documented cars, with lower mileage, will always warrant a premium price, all else equal. The paint-to-sample blue GTS that sold on BaT for high $90s was a big number for that car, but rare color with tasteful aesthetic mods.
Old 03-10-2019, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Rek Loos


Very sound rationale sandwedge. Projecting the desirability of 997.2 GTS models over the long-term, I would rank as follows: (1) Carrera GTS coupe manual; (2) Carrera GTS coupe PDK; (3) Carrera 4 GTS coupe manual; (4) Carrera 4 GTS coupe PDK; (5) Carerra GTS/4 GTS cabriolets manual followed by PDK. Always remember...CLEAN, well documented cars, with lower mileage, will always warrant a premium price, all else equal. The paint-to-sample blue GTS that sold on BaT for high $90s was a big number for that car, but rare color with tasteful aesthetic mods.

Big number is an understatement no matter what the mods. What was the mileage on that car?
Old 03-11-2019, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by sandwedge
Big number is an understatement no matter what the mods. What was the mileage on that car?
2012 manual; 16k miles; PTS Riviera Blue; $97,000+; Please see link for full details and results: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...carrera-gts-5/
Old 03-11-2019, 11:57 PM
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Sounds like you already decided to keep it. Perfect!
I'd rather it be in the hands of an enthusiast who is active here than possibly not.


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