Helmholtz resonator hack: who's done it?
#16
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
Done. Swung by Home Depot and bought some Oatey plugs. To get the right fit I had to mix and match the end pieces from a 1.5" plug with the rubber gasket from the 2" plug. $10 solution.
It's definitely got a much raspier tone from 5-7k rpm. And I don't feel that momentary lag between 3-4k rpm. Im hesitant to say, but it feels like its got more high rpm zip.
Im unclear why this would reduce the lag (I was under the impression that was from the variocams). The only thing I can think of is the resonator works by creating a turbulent airflow and plugging it streamlines the flow.
I was worried the plug could get sucked into the throttle body but after taking the airbox apart I realized the airflow to the resonator goes the other way. The resonator is a sealed box so the air is coming from the main pipe and some turns the corner into the elbow pipe and resonator. It's that same principle as blowing into a bottle.
The next question is could I just remove the resonator all together to increase airflow? Its just glued in mine and the C2 doesn't have the baffles the C2S has.
It's definitely got a much raspier tone from 5-7k rpm. And I don't feel that momentary lag between 3-4k rpm. Im hesitant to say, but it feels like its got more high rpm zip.
Im unclear why this would reduce the lag (I was under the impression that was from the variocams). The only thing I can think of is the resonator works by creating a turbulent airflow and plugging it streamlines the flow.
I was worried the plug could get sucked into the throttle body but after taking the airbox apart I realized the airflow to the resonator goes the other way. The resonator is a sealed box so the air is coming from the main pipe and some turns the corner into the elbow pipe and resonator. It's that same principle as blowing into a bottle.
The next question is could I just remove the resonator all together to increase airflow? Its just glued in mine and the C2 doesn't have the baffles the C2S has.
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#18
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How can the airflow go the other way when the throttle body is sucking air at a furious rate and that offshoot hose is angled to be part of that flow. Maybe the vacuum created by the airflow closes the resonance chamber by sucking something shut, but not running these stock boxes for years, I've not looked at the guts inside.
#19
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
Will do :-)
I do think this is a better setup that stuffing the Castrol cap in http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...mple-free.html
I do think this is a better setup that stuffing the Castrol cap in http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...mple-free.html
#20
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
How can the airflow go the other way when the throttle body is sucking air at a furious rate and that offshoot hose is angled to be part of that flow. Maybe the vacuum created by the airflow closes the resonance chamber by sucking something shut, but not running these stock boxes for years, I've not looked at the guts inside.
Day 2 with it and its really loud as ****. Its actually a little harsh so I may take it out. Its really bangin at 5k and then you get a high pitch woosh of air at 7k, almost like a turbo. Im not sure if the C2S airbox has a different size resonator than the C2. I don't believe Porsche's design objective was to make the car quieter, it was just give the car more baritone at high RPM.
Last edited by TheBruce; 01-06-2019 at 12:43 PM.
#23
#25
It is about the same as what you described except more pronounced throttle response and you really hear more air being sucked in due to the larger diameter. Around the 5k to 6k rpm in 3rd and 4th...and 5th if I get daring it really is loud and it sounds like a jet engine compared when mine was stock. I wouldn't have gotten the GT3 plenum and TB if I wasn't going to mod the exhaust and then do a tune. That's when the IPD comp plen and TB will give you the most bang for the buck.....I am basically doing what my indy suggests me to do. He races them so I assume he knows what he is doing....cause for me, I don't! haha … you can't beat this hack tho. So cheap and you do hear/feel a difference.
#26
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Don’t anyone get too excited about any performance benefits outside of it “feels faster” because it’s highly unlikely there are any gains doing this mod. The stock airbox is huge and flows well. These threads are recurring across decades with airbox mods. For Those who like the sound - this is an easy/cheap mod. For those who want a more powerful engine - not much can be done without five figure investments.
#27
Don’t anyone get too excited about any performance benefits outside of it “feels faster” because it’s highly unlikely there are any gains doing this mod. The stock airbox is huge and flows well. These threads are recurring across decades with airbox mods. For Those who like the sound - this is an easy/cheap mod. For those who want a more powerful engine - not much can be done without five figure investments.
#28
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
it does seem to eliminate the lag between 3-4k. I don't understand why. as for more power, yea agree. it just feels faster because it scares the crap out of you.
#29
Will do :-)
I do think this is a better setup that stuffing the Castrol cap in http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...mple-free.html
I do think this is a better setup that stuffing the Castrol cap in http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...mple-free.html
#30
How can the airflow go the other way when the throttle body is sucking air at a furious rate and that offshoot hose is angled to be part of that flow. Maybe the vacuum created by the airflow closes the resonance chamber by sucking something shut, but not running these stock boxes for years, I've not looked at the guts inside.