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Old 11-23-2018, 12:36 PM
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Dealer is selling 997 with 106k for $24k. Dealer says they will replace the IMS as part of the deal. Any advice from this group. This would be my first Porsche and it is within my budget.
Old 11-23-2018, 02:24 PM
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I was in a similar position - What model is it... "S" 4s etc .... What options ?? Color ... Would this be at a Porsche dealer or other "reputable" dealer ....How many previous owners ?? Is it stock ?? are you getting a PPI on it ??
24K might sound good and it might be a decent deal but a bad purchase can easily make the purchase and ownership experience a ****ty one. Give us some more info !!
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Get a very thorough PPI. Scope the cylinders.
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Silver 6 speed base 911 with HID lights. It's from a Porsche dealer in Mobile, AL. 2 previous owners and it is stock. I will get a PPI on it if I decide to buy it.

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Will you have the chance to see this car in person before the purchase? There are many points on a 997 that can age poorly. While it does not effect how the car drives (usually) it would matter to me. Do you have the vin for this car, if so we can see what options it came with?

On a side note, I've driven a few base 997's and they're very sweet to drive. The lighter motor has its own personality that I quite liked, sadly I suffer from "S"-itis
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I will get a chance to see the car. I would prefer a 911S, so I am on the fence with this car.
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Originally Posted by sbrooks64
I will get a chance to see the car. I would prefer a 911S, so I am on the fence with this car.
A common recommendation if to not rule out a 997.2 base, as it has the performance of a 997.1 S minus some of the motor risks. There are many good models out there, unless of course you are dead set on a 997.
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My first 911 was an 1981 911SC with 124,000 miles. I was happier than a pig in mud. Assuming it passes the PPI and they document the IMS change.....for $24k you should be just as happy as I was.
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Keep in mind, unless its well documented, the car will need up to $20K in service in the next year or two. Simple things like tires, brakes, clutch, trans flush, coolant flush, plugs can really add up. You can save a lot if you do the work yourself, and are good about sourcing parts.
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That seems like a suspiciously low price from a Porsche dealer. Any chance that it is a totaled and reconstructed car? That isn't necessarily a bad thing if repaired correctly. Bore scoping would be crucial. I am doubting that these IMS engines are anywhere near "bullet proof" compared to air cooled. Rebuilding that engine can run into the same kind of money as the purchase price of the car. The 997.2 base car was an excellent suggestion. Best of luck.
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Originally Posted by Dennis R. Cliff
That seems like a suspiciously low price from a Porsche dealer. Any chance that it is a totaled and reconstructed car? That isn't necessarily a bad thing if repaired correctly. Bore scoping would be crucial. I am doubting that these IMS engines are anywhere near "bullet proof" compared to air cooled. Rebuilding that engine can run into the same kind of money as the purchase price of the car. The 997.2 base car was an excellent suggestion. Best of luck.
Couldn't agree more but a 997.2 base for anywhere near $24K?
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Originally Posted by Monster231
Keep in mind, unless its well documented, the car will need up to $20K in service in the next year or two. Simple things like tires, brakes, clutch, trans flush, coolant flush, plugs can really add up. You can save a lot if you do the work yourself, and are good about sourcing parts.
Thats a really high number for the items you quoted. A PPI will be able to flush out most of the items. Besides the clutch, the rest can be handled by a shade tree mechanic owner or specialist. Unless there is a hidden grenade in the tranny or engine, the car is a decent buy for the price.

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Originally Posted by sbrooks64
Dealer is selling 997 with 106k for $24k. Dealer says they will replace the IMS as part of the deal. Any advice from this group. This would be my first Porsche and it is within my budget.
OP, what is your budget? Are you able to do DIY or will you have to pay for service and repairs? At the very least I'd ask for a printout of service and repairs done in the Porsche system. PPI would need to be done by a third party. Look closely at the cosmetics - front end rash, windshield, driver's seat and more.
I'm one year and 5k miles into ownership of my '09 base Carrera 6MT, bought from second owner at 35k miles for $42k. While waiting for buyer of my last BMW I spent months of looking and researching. Went through a lot of hand-wringing over the usual suspects like IMS, S/non S, Tiptronic/PDK. My preference has always been to buy from an enthusiast owner so I never set foot in a dealership. The car I found (went from Texas to Florida to get it) suits me to a T and I'm very happy with decision to seek a 997.2. Great features and loads of performance.
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When I think of a Porsche sports car in the $25k range, a first generation cayman comes to mind immediately. My fear would be, if one had to get the cheapest 997 available, how would one repair it if something went horribly wrong. Doing DIY jobs does help though.
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$24K with an IMS thrown in - seems too low. Something is fishy about it to me. The miles aren't terribly high, just a blip over 100K - these cars can go a long time. I'd want to know a whole lot more. Also, if your budget is that tight, look for a 996 or a Cayman. Both great cars, lower on the depreciation curve, and not too bad to work on. Generally, be aware that I have found over the years and 6 Porsches, that the words "budget" and Porsche should not ever be uttered in the same sentence. You can have one, or the other, but not both (or get a 944)


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