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Old Sep 7, 2018 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Meursault88
I guess things could be worse.


What's that?!?
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Old Sep 7, 2018 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Meursault88
I think it's Polish but it also looks like where the 911 is headed. Sooner or later the 911 will just like an oversized version of the key fob.

It's a cross between the 911, the 928, a Panamera, and what ever Aston Martin did in 2022. Plus it has the oversize logo just like thouse douchebaggy Ralph Lauren shirts did a few years ago.
( PS: There's no better way to tell people from 200 yds away "I have no taste and can't afford Brunello Cucinelli" )

Ladies and gentlemen - introducing the 2026 911.... you saw it here first. (that's a trailer hitch in the back) It's very aero.
I was going to say something snarky about the Panamera, but then I looked at the current market in the US.

SUV. SUV. CUV. SUV. SUV. SUV. CUV. CUV. CUV. 9,000 911's sold, 22,000 Macans, 13,000 Cayennes.

It's only a matter of time before the 911 gets a 1" lift, black plastic cladding on the fenders, rear bench to seat three*, factory hitch receiver, assortment of roof-mounted racks for bikes and skis, and opening back glass to claim the most cargo room in it's class.
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Old Sep 7, 2018 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
You calling the 928 ugly?????
I've had and to me they seem dated now.

But this..... I get.





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Old Sep 7, 2018 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sailorlite
Is that a real photo? What is it?
Originally Posted by tomc_mets
What's that?!?
Re-bodied Ford Mustang:

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...specs-hp-info/


Originally Posted by Meursault88
But this..... I get.
That photo-shopped abomination looks uncomfortably awkward.
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Old Sep 7, 2018 | 05:15 PM
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928 is beautiful. But it's not a 911.
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Old Sep 7, 2018 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sailorlite
Is that a real photo? What is it?
It's a Matador.
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Old Sep 7, 2018 | 09:02 PM
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I sold my 2006 C2S 6MT, 62k Miles for $45k. It was a $106k build. My Indy purchased it as he knew the maintenance was done (and he knew who did it), and the mods were what he would have done. So, the market is good for 997.1’s despite the misplaced fear of the IMS non-issue for models beyond 2005.

I think it’s just a case of if you have the right car for the right buyer everyone is happy. Good price for the seller and buyer.
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Old Sep 7, 2018 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Meursault88
I've had and to me they seem dated now.

But this..... I get.




Looks like a Ferrari FF from this angle...T
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Old Sep 8, 2018 | 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by SoCal C2S
I sold my 2006 C2S 6MT, 62k Miles for $45k. It was a $106k build. My Indy purchased it as he knew the maintenance was done (and he knew who did it), and the mods were what he would have done. So, the market is good for 997.1’s despite the misplaced fear of the IMS non-issue for models beyond 2005.

I think it’s just a case of if you have the right car for the right buyer everyone is happy. Good price for the seller and buyer.

IMS "non-issue" beyond 2005? There was another recent poster saying the same thing. Here: https://rennlist.com/forums/showpost...0&postcount=18
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Old Sep 8, 2018 | 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Meursault88
Looks have got to account for something. Perhaps this one 'performs' like a champ but really.....

The 997 is the best of all worlds IMHO.


I wish I could combine the 997 road feel, 6MT box, and steering with 991 handling. After driving my wife's 991 C2S manual cab, my 997.2 C4S feels like my sailboat in light winds. It is a sloppy, flexy car in comparison.

Are there reasonable suspension upgrades that could improve handling? I asked Elephant for a quote, and they had almost $6,000 worth of parts to upgrade the car. I might as well get a 991 if I go that route.
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Old Sep 8, 2018 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Kg11
I wish I could combine the 997 road feel, 6MT box, and steering with 991 handling. After driving my wife's 991 C2S manual cab, my 997.2 C4S feels like my sailboat in light winds. It is a sloppy, flexy car in comparison.

Are there reasonable suspension upgrades that could improve handling? I asked Elephant for a quote, and they had almost $6,000 worth of parts to upgrade the car. I might as well get a 991 if I go that route.
Maybe that's true but with most people driving these cars at 20-30% of their potential few could notice the difference nor make it worthwhile. Again - looks matter. What's also surprising is it sounds like you're saying a 991 cab is stiffer than a 997 coupe which probably isn't in the realm of possibility.

I'd be looking closely at your tires on the 997 - belt separation or something else ?
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Old Sep 8, 2018 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Kg11
I wish I could combine the 997 road feel, 6MT box, and steering with 991 handling. After driving my wife's 991 C2S manual cab, my 997.2 C4S feels like my sailboat in light winds. It is a sloppy, flexy car in comparison.

Are there reasonable suspension upgrades that could improve handling? I asked Elephant for a quote, and they had almost $6,000 worth of parts to upgrade the car. I might as well get a 991 if I go that route.
https://www.dscsport.com/product/dsc-vplug-n-play/
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Old Sep 8, 2018 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Kg11
I wish I could combine the 997 road feel, 6MT box, and steering with 991 handling. After driving my wife's 991 C2S manual cab, my 997.2 C4S feels like my sailboat in light winds. It is a sloppy, flexy car in comparison.

Are there reasonable suspension upgrades that could improve handling? I asked Elephant for a quote, and they had almost $6,000 worth of parts to upgrade the car. I might as well get a 991 if I go that route.
Have you tried pushing the Sport button? Or getting new tires? Or an alignment?
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Originally Posted by sandwedge
IMS "non-issue" beyond 2005? There was another recent poster saying the same thing. Here: https://rennlist.com/forums/showpost...0&postcount=18
I think the fear factor is beyond reality. The large bearing IMS has such a low failure rate (Flat 6 findings, not mine) it’s been overblown. Are the failures, sure, is it bigger than bore scoring, not sure. That’s like saying any Porsche with PDK is a time bomb.

If all these cases of failure were an epidemic as people say Porsche would never sell a new car and resale prices would plummet.
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Old Sep 8, 2018 | 10:41 PM
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Old men ranting about Porsche and change...wow...now that’s something new!
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