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Old 07-13-2018, 08:06 AM
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Yeah, pdk without SC does not feel like a sports car. My pdk cars remain in sports + 100% of the time.
Old 07-13-2018, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by voiceprint1
somehow Porsche made cars for almost 70 years without a chrono button, not sure how?
And I am sure that chrono would have been much welcomed on the older automatics...
Old 07-13-2018, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug H
Yeah, pdk without SC does not feel like a sports car. My pdk cars remain in sports + 100% of the time.

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PDK and sport chrono go hand in hand. As stated previously... without sports chrono PDK is just lazy. It's like someone spilled molasses in it. The Ruby color is nice, and works with the beige interior sort of, as much as I think beige interior is an eyesore, some people like it well enough.
Old 07-13-2018, 08:36 PM
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As someone mentioned, Sport Chrono can be added. That red car is fairly unique with the beige interior and red console, kind of neat. Sport design steering wheel is a nice addition too.
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Originally Posted by sandwedge
Besides that, $40K for a base 997.2 shouldn't be that big of a challenge. May have some miles on it but not a scary number.
I'm either looking in the wrong place or the market has changed, because right now I would IMMEDIATELY pay $40k for a 997.2 base with MT, 50k miles, with zero options.

A car like that came up earlier in the week with an asking price of $44,500 and it was gone immediately. Right now there's not really anything like the above for $45k – you have to go up to $50k asking prices to find one. Maybe PDK cars are a lot cheaper, as I realize that's what the OP is looking at.
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Hey aren't you the guy with a youtube channel who already bought like 3 911 and has a white NSX??
Old 07-13-2018, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Vincent713
Hey aren't you the guy with a youtube channel who already bought like 3 911 and has a white NSX??
Me? Nope, not me.

I’m trying to buy a 997.2 (or 987.2) coupe MT, and not having a lot of luck.
Old 07-14-2018, 01:05 AM
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No the original poster of this post.
Old 07-14-2018, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by fronesis47


Me? Nope, not me.

I’m trying to buy a 997.2 (or 987.2) coupe MT, and not having a lot of luck.
I'm stuck between a 997.1 and 997.2, the difference between the two in price is huge and I don't know if the extra premium cost is worth the upgrade.
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Originally Posted by Vincent713
I'm stuck between a 997.1 and 997.2, the difference between the two in price is huge and I don't know if the extra premium cost is worth the upgrade.
Same problem for me. While I think the internet worries about the M97 issue are way overblown (especially for one with the larger IMSB), it would bring some peace of mind and a lot of small improvements to get the 997.2. But as I look at the market, 997.1 cars seem undervalued and 997.2 cars seem both overvalued and VERY hard to find.

If I decided to pull the trigger on a 997.1 I would have a number of excellent choices at under $35k; but for a 997.2 I have to be reaching up to $50k or so. That's a huge difference. Especially since for $50k I could get a basically new 718 Cayman.
Old 07-14-2018, 11:42 AM
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It is not that hard to find a base for 40k. In fact, there is a S for 40k. It is 400 miles away. Of course, I am looking for PDK variant because it suit my need better. I can drive the NSX if need to fiddle with a stick. I am sure the manual is more expensive because people prefers it. Honestly, I like PDK better for 997.2.
Old 07-14-2018, 03:07 PM
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I've seen a few 997.2 seldom pops up for $40k but they have high mileage. I don't mind the base model at all, and I do agree with others that a sports chrono is highly desirable. The good thing is you can add that feature if it doesn't have one. I am not worried about the IMSB on the 997.1 at all, I'm more worried about the bore scoring than anything, I figured when doing the PPI, pay the extra money to have cylinder 5&6 scoped for any scoring. Then do the preventative maintenance regularly and you should be golden. Now between the tiptronic/PDK and 6sp manual, this is another dilemma. There's so many pros & cons between the 2 but my heart is with a manual. Especially for a sports car like the 911, it's just more fun to drive. On the other hand, tiptronic/PDK are also fun to drive (have driven both) but just a little less engaging. My conclusion is depending on how you are going to use your car. If it's just a weekend toy, 6sp manual all the way. If it's going to be a daily driver, tiptronic/PDK is the choice. Between tiptronic and PDK is a whole new discussion but I will say I never hear anything about tiptronics breaking down and the PDK are expensive to maintain and repair. When you tie everything up, it pulls me towards the 997.1. Happy riding!
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Originally Posted by Vincent713
I've seen a few 997.2 seldom pops up for $40k but they have high mileage. I don't mind the base model at all, and I do agree with others that a sports chrono is highly desirable. The good thing is you can add that feature if it doesn't have one. I am not worried about the IMSB on the 997.1 at all, I'm more worried about the bore scoring than anything, I figured when doing the PPI, pay the extra money to have cylinder 5&6 scoped for any scoring. Then do the preventative maintenance regularly and you should be golden. Now between the tiptronic/PDK and 6sp manual, this is another dilemma. There's so many pros & cons between the 2 but my heart is with a manual. Especially for a sports car like the 911, it's just more fun to drive. On the other hand, tiptronic/PDK are also fun to drive (have driven both) but just a little less engaging. My conclusion is depending on how you are going to use your car. If it's just a weekend toy, 6sp manual all the way. If it's going to be a daily driver, tiptronic/PDK is the choice. Between tiptronic and PDK is a whole new discussion but I will say I never hear anything about tiptronics breaking down and the PDK are expensive to maintain and repair. When you tie everything up, it pulls me towards the 997.1. Happy riding!
Valid point for anyone looking for anything other than a manual. That said, a tip will never come close to a PDK performance wise but will probably cost next to nothing to maintain during it's entire life. "Bullet proof" is thrown about here and there and sometimes where it doesn't belong but for the tip, based on testimony here and elsewhere I think the tip deserves that label. The PDK clearly does not.
Old 07-14-2018, 08:23 PM
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I searched casually for a year and finally found a 2010 base 997.2 MT. Right here on rennlist, totally bone stock and an honest 2010
it had 32k miles on it from Houston Tx and had it shipped to Los Angeles after PPI and a friend of a friend did a visual inspection.
The peeps here on rennlist have been so helpful in every aspect of Porsche ownership. Everything from what to bring to a track day to tires and mods.
The only mods I’ve done is BMC airfilters and a sharkwerks x pipe.
Tires were replaced with Michelin PS 4S’
I probably drive it once a month and have had two track days on it.

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Old 07-14-2018, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrhugo
It is not that hard to find a base for 40k. In fact, there is a S for 40k. It is 400 miles away. Of course, I am looking for PDK variant because it suit my need better. I can drive the NSX if need to fiddle with a stick. I am sure the manual is more expensive because people prefers it. Honestly, I like PDK better for 997.2.
I assume you are referring to the car in Florida? It has 96k miles on it.

Posters in this thread have been talking about a 997.2 base with under 60k miles. Whether it’s right or not, the market clearly devalues cars over 90k miles, so I don’t think that’s a good example of the kind of car people are looking for.


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