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Old 02-01-2018, 04:50 PM
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Hi all,

Long time lurker, recently joined.

I purchased a 2005 997. It has 103,500 miles on it. I am in the process of baselining the maintenance on this car, and plan on doing new engine mounts and a water pump.

2 Questions:

1. The engine is a M96 according to the tab near the oil pan. Should I order a 996 water pump assembly, or a 997.1 assembly?

2. What is the general idea regarding an IMS bearing job after 100k? Is it truly a wear item that I should address, or do they tend to not fail if they have gone this long?

Thanks in advance!
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What is the production date? Have you checked your VIN against the class action lawsuit list of affected vehicles for the IMS bearing problem?

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Well, it actually looks like it is an August 4th, 2004 build, which I believe puts it in range of the class action suit. Thank you for pointing that out! Are there success stories of people being reimbursed?

Seeing as it's well past 2013, it doesn't seem plausible that one would expect much out of that class action.
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Originally Posted by gutenfreibier
Well, it actually looks like it is an August 4th, 2004 build, which I believe puts it in range of the class action suit. Thank you for pointing that out! Are there success stories of people being reimbursed?

Seeing as it's well past 2013, it doesn't seem plausible that one would expect much out of that class action.
I have one of made in August of ‘04 as well. I had the IMSB replaced when I bought the car and I never had to worry. I bought mine going on two years ago, so I did not attempt any reimbursement. In my mind, you are better off having a serviceable IMSB. Put the solution in or change it out with cluch jobs. The newer one or larger IMSB is solid for the street. I think if you track the car, the newer non serviceable would still be a concern.

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Thanks guys! So does anyone know which water pump I should order? It appears the engine is an M96.., but a 997 car.
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I would go to pelican parts, put in model and view compatible options
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And plan on replacing the reservoir tank as well - if it hasn't been already!
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Originally Posted by gutenfreibier
Thanks guys! So does anyone know which water pump I should order? It appears the engine is an M96.., but a 997 car.
Hi there, M96 is the designation for the 3.6L engine found in the non 'S' cars and M97 is the designation for the 3.8L engine found in the 'S' car.
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Congratulations, welcome, and yes, you should change the IMS bearing. The small bearing is a ticking time bomb - just because it has made it 100,000 miles doesn't mean it will make it another 1000, 5000, or 10000.

You need to do a brake fluid flush and clutch slave bleed too if those haven't been documented as being done.
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OP, I would add a few additional comments on the IMS bearing having researched a fair amount. Cars with higher mileage like yours have lower probability for ims failure. The class action report indicated about an 11% failure rate for smaller bearing cars. However, if you have some extra money to invest and plan on keeping the car an ims retrofit would always be a good investment to make the car more bulletproof.

There is an infinite amount of info on this topic on the site. Just trying to summarize a bit on some of my takeaways.
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Think about upper and lower control arms and struts. My control arms were starting to show wear at 58k when I replaced them. Really was noticeable afterwards by the lack of wandering that I seem to got used too. Struts seem to be OK (now 61k) but I’ll probably replace them this summer.
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Is the class action lawsuit still valid, even if VINs qualify within the range? I thought that there was a final filing date.
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Originally Posted by jaysun
Is the class action lawsuit still valid, even if VINs qualify within the range? I thought that there was a final filing date.
No, it's long since expired, but entering the VIN gives you an indication of whether Porsche believes the car is a small bearing car or not, so it's just a tool, but no monetary compensation would be available.
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How is the clutch? If it hasn't ever been changed, you might justify part of the IMSB retrofit by having the cluch done at the same time, as it involves the same major labor procedures. At that mileage I would go for the single-row-PRO retrofit (specified for a 75K-mile service life) unless you plan on keeping the car more than 75K miles, or plan on rebuilding it whenever it goes from some other cause. In that case I would go with The Solution, as it can be reused, and would be what I would want in a rebuilt engine since its service life is said to be that of the engine itself.
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#1 Where are the pics? lol.. 2004 might this be a launch edition with PCCB's?


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