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Old 11-13-2017, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ehandschuh
Total bill came in at $10,100 + tax, which is a good $5,000 less than the first dealership (which wanted to charge me the core charge!)
Ouch! At least you'll have it back to enjoy though.

It's threads like this that that have me sticking with my manual transmissions instead of trying out the new tech, where I can do a clutch replacement at about 100,000 miles for $2.500. I am considering a used Macan Turbo but these PDK replacements out of warranty have kept me from pulling the trigger since that's the transmission in the Macan, and it's a heavier vehicle than a 911. Porsche won't use the PDK in the Cayennes, even up through the 2019 new platform launch models, which contributes to my hesitancy about how robust the PDK really is.

Glad you're back on the road though - or soon will be, and am sure you are too.
Old 11-13-2017, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ehandschuh
So it wasn't electrical issues. They recommended a new transmission which is in process of being installed. Total bill came in at $10,100 + tax, which is a good $5,000 less than the first dealership (which wanted to charge me the core charge!)

Car should be delivered this afternoon. Haven't had it since July 3rd and getting it back just in time to put winter tires on haha
I would imagine when these malfunction they throw codes which would emulate an electrical issue, but are a manifestation of something mechanical or a more serious problem. $10k suck, but is definitely doable and perhaps worth it to self insure. $18k or $20k+ is when you reach the point the car no longer because worth the repair without a warranty coverage unless perhaps it is a GTS or C4S with a higher value.
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Originally Posted by ehandschuh
So it wasn't electrical issues. They recommended a new transmission which is in process of being installed. Total bill came in at $10,100 + tax, which is a good $5,000 less than the first dealership (which wanted to charge me the core charge!)

Car should be delivered this afternoon. Haven't had it since July 3rd and getting it back just in time to put winter tires on haha
Which dealer did you end up using? I live in the area and always good to know who's honest!
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Originally Posted by ehandschuh
So it wasn't electrical issues. They recommended a new transmission which is in process of being installed. Total bill came in at $10,100 + tax, which is a good $5,000 less than the first dealership (which wanted to charge me the core charge!)

Car should be delivered this afternoon. Haven't had it since July 3rd and getting it back just in time to put winter tires on haha
Glad to hear you'll be back on the road.

If you don't mind, could you share a breakdown of the bill?

Specifically the cost of the replacement transmission, and the labor cost (with total hours)?

Labor rates/hr can vary dramatically from dealer to dealer (and region to region)...

Thanks.

Karl.
Old 11-13-2017, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ehandschuh
So it wasn't electrical issues. They recommended a new transmission which is in process of being installed. Total bill came in at $10,100 + tax, which is a good $5,000 less than the first dealership (which wanted to charge me the core charge!)

Car should be delivered this afternoon. Haven't had it since July 3rd and getting it back just in time to put winter tires on haha
did they mention why the PDK failed? Or is it again closed box and cannot do diagnostics on it?
Old 11-13-2017, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by wjk_glynn
Glad to hear you'll be back on the road.

If you don't mind, could you share a breakdown of the bill?

Specifically the cost of the replacement transmission, and the labor cost (with total hours)?

Labor rates/hr can vary dramatically from dealer to dealer (and region to region)...

Thanks.

Karl.
The dealership really helped me out, the trans came to $9,000 and the labor $1,100

They billed it at 10hrs, another dealership billed it at 15?!
Old 11-13-2017, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 911-997
did they mention why the PDK failed? Or is it again closed box and cannot do diagnostics on it?
The error was P1733 and deals with 3rd shift rod sensor which fails at 60C and won't go into gear until it cools down. They won't open the box, they can't get the sensor and the only option was completed replacement.
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Old 11-14-2017, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ehandschuh
The dealership really helped me out, the trans came to $9,000 and the labor $1,100

They billed it at 10hrs, another dealership billed it at 15?!
Thanks so much for the details, appreciate it.

As a side note, $110/hr is a very good rate from a dealer.

Here in the SF Bay Area, my local Porsche dealer charges $225/hr.

Heck my local Dodge dealer (I also have a Durango) charges $175/hr...

Karl.
Old 11-14-2017, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Petza914
It's threads like this that that have me sticking with my manual transmissions instead of trying out the new tech, where I can do a clutch replacement at about 100,000 miles for $2.500.
I've always been a MT guy but really liked the PDKs I tried.

In the end I went for MT due to the same concerns with possible failures, just wasn't willing to roll the dice...
Old 11-14-2017, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug H
I would imagine when these malfunction they throw codes which would emulate an electrical issue, but are a manifestation of something mechanical or a more serious problem. $10k suck, but is definitely doable and perhaps worth it to self insure. $18k or $20k+ is when you reach the point the car no longer because worth the repair without a warranty coverage unless perhaps it is a GTS or C4S with a higher value.

C2S is better than C4S (Joking,.. a matter of preference)
Old 11-14-2017, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by tse
I've always been a MT guy but really liked the PDKs I tried.

In the end I went for MT due to the same concerns with possible failures, just wasn't willing to roll the dice...


I was also in the same dilemma. All my life I used MT and looked for "control steering wheel" and went at the end on the Tiptronic s.
While being aware of the disadvantages and advantages.
Overall, I am very pleased, especially after learning to drive with TIP. However, the next Porsche - Manual
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Originally Posted by ehandschuh
The error was P1733 and deals with 3rd shift rod sensor which fails at 60C and won't go into gear until it cools down. They won't open the box, they can't get the sensor and the only option was completed replacement.
Glad it's behind you. This is better than "open the box - PDK"
Old 11-14-2017, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by f911
Glad it's behind you. This is better than "open the box - PDK"
Take delivery this afternoon (hopefully) after they run it, get it up to temp and confirm it is in good order.

Meanwhile, I have been thoroughly enjoying the Cayenne loaner.
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So, your entire PDK is junk because of one sensor failure?
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Originally Posted by ehandschuh
The error was P1733 and deals with 3rd shift rod sensor which fails at 60C and won't go into gear until it cools down. They won't open the box, they can't get the sensor and the only option was completed replacement.
Glad you got this sorted, could you please add this info to our PDK failure survey. It's good info to keep for others who may face the same issue.

Thanks


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