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Old 06-23-2017, 04:19 AM
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2wd? Better run that one down. Maybe an Autotrader mistake.
Old 06-23-2017, 10:11 AM
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That PPI is very good. Not even worth talking about. These are ~15 year old used cars, if you want a completely clean PPI you should look at 2017 turbos.
Old 06-23-2017, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by sgtpeper
Do the wheels not look stock size? I can't really tell...

Car wasn't exposed to salt ever - except in the air I suppose? It's only lived in CA and then NC.

I'm really wavering I guess... As I've said in my other thread I'm worried that the coupe will rocket up in value more than a cab will in the long run. It just seems that with Porsche, more than any other brand, that coupes are more coveted. In most other car companies, if the top goes down the price goes up!
If you're looking at these as an investment I'd reconsider your financial strategy overall.
Get what you like, they're a turbo 911 and will always be worth decent dough if maintained.
Old 06-23-2017, 10:29 AM
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I would keep looking and unless you really want a vert get a coupe 6spd= usually easier to sell. A lot of nice cars out there= often can be found here owned by enthusiasts that take very good care.
Old 06-23-2017, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Carlo_Carrera
They built less Cabs thus they are rarer. The numbers are what the numbers are.
For model year 2004 (the model year of the car in question) , they built far more cabs the coupes:

Coupes Cabs Total
298 1490 1788

A 2004 coupe might be considered rare; a 2004 cab, not so much.

Originally Posted by Turbodan
the tires look they are put on backwards btw. they should push the water to outside of tread not inside.
Actually, the tires are directional and are mounted correctly. The picture is of the front of the car, so the tires would rotate toward the front - pushing water to the outside.

Other than what's already been said, seems like a relatively lightly optioned car for the money.
Old 06-23-2017, 12:01 PM
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Those of you who would honestly walk away from that car or try to lowball the seller with a $5k price drop over some stupid things like the CD player not working are absolutely nuts. I'd be as happy as a pig in **** if the seller came down 1-2k! If you want a perfect car then you need to be looking at brand new ones, like someone mentioned above.
Old 06-23-2017, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by spooltime
For model year 2004 (the model year of the car in question) , they built far more cabs the coupes:

Coupes Cabs Total
298 1490 1788

A 2004 coupe might be considered rare; a 2004 cab, not so much.
It is never the individual production year that matters. It's the overall number produced of the model. Porsche made fewer 996TT cabs than coupes. 2550 cabs to 6600 coupes in the USA. Thus cabs are rarer and might have a bit of a premium to their price. Just like all other 356 and 911 cabriolets models of the past.

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Old 06-23-2017, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by tom153
Those of you who would honestly walk away from that car or try to lowball the seller with a $5k price drop over some stupid things like the CD player not working are absolutely nuts. I'd be as happy as a pig in **** if the seller came down 1-2k! If you want a perfect car then you need to be looking at brand new ones, like someone mentioned above.
Its not just a CD player its a PCM, not cheap!
Old 06-23-2017, 01:57 PM
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that ppi is fine. overrevs are virtually meaningless if they are not recently occuring in the run hours.

no need to drop engine for plugs/coils. plugs dont really go bad from just sitting there in my experience. I would change the oil and diff/trans fluid, flush the brake fluid, make sure the coolant and PS fluid looks good and no leaks anywhere and then go from there with it based on what the car actually needs from driving it. no need to spend mountain of money making problems that dont exist.

if you fix the factory hydraulic rams they are just going to leak again later down the road, dont invest too much in that. to me, it doesn't sound like the microswitch is bad just sounds like the wing doesnt deploy fast enough to trigger the switch in the window that the car wants it to.

pcm/nav/radio issues not my thing, no knowledge on that. Id probably grab one from ebay or try to have the current one rebuilt/repaired. or just go aftermarket
Old 06-23-2017, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Jferrante
don't need to drop engine for plugs thats nonsense
+1

Originally Posted by 911mhawk
If you're looking at these as an investment I'd reconsider your financial strategy overall.
Get what you like, they're a turbo 911 and will always be worth decent dough if maintained.
+1

buy for fun not for an investment.
Old 06-23-2017, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevinmacd
Its not just a CD player its a PCM, not cheap!
I understand that, but the thing still works, doesn't it? I'd get a bluetooth streaming solution for like $600 or just replace the archaic thing all together before you even think of dropping $1500+ on a "new" one.
Old 06-23-2017, 04:26 PM
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Nothing to see here, all very minor/common and easy to fix stuff - but you should plan on some stuff in the first few months of ownership as everyone else has talked about.
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I’d agree with those saying this looks like a clean car with pretty typical (and non-dealbreaking) issues for a 996 TT.

I mean, it still has the green tag on the hydraulic pump and the tail lamp mounting tabs are still completely intact…this car is barely broken in!!

I’d be okay with the plugs and coil packs (would like to know if coil packs were replaced with stock Beru or the Bosch) but would do all the fluids and the serpentine belt.

I’d also mentally prepare for a clutch accumulator and slave. (See if the clutch is stiff to depress when the car is off but easy when running)

I’m pretty sure the “second gear pop-out” is an early production issue but that along with the over rev report was my biggest concerns when buying. (2nd gear pop-out was something Brumos was unwilling to test as part of my PPI)

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Old 06-23-2017, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Carlo_Carrera
It is never the individual production year that matters. It's the overall number produced of the model. Porsche made fewer 996TT cabs than coupes. 2550 cabs to 6600 coupes in the USA. Thus cabs are rarer and might have a bit of a premium to their price. Just like all other 356 and 911 cabriolets models of the past.
Let's compare model year production. The cab was only produced for 3 model years. They made 2,576 of them. For those same 3 model years, only 1,868 coupes were produced. If you're looking for a later model 996TT (i.e., '03 - '05), as most buyers these days are, the coupes are rarer. No one is claiming these cars will ever be collectible yet.
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Originally Posted by spooltime
Let's compare model year production. The cab was only produced for 3 model years. They made 2,576 of them. For those same 3 model years, only 1,868 coupes were produced. If you're looking for a later model 996TT (i.e., '03 - '05), as most buyers these days are, the coupes are rarer. No one is claiming these cars will ever be collectible yet.
That is not how the market works at all. Total number of model produced is what matters. There is no difference between an 2002 and a 2005 and collectors know that, though there is a slight premium paid for first and final years of production.

Coupes vastly out number Cabs. Anyone with any knowledge of the collector car market will tell you that almost universally if the top goes down the price goes up. From blower Bentleys to Hemi Cudas, convertibles bring in the biggest bucks, and it is the same for Porsches.

One notable exception, and there are a few, is the Mercedes 300SL gulling for obvious reasons.

As for 996TT being collectible. The markets is already saying that ultra-low milage mint conditions cars are going for strong money. That makes them collectible. Read all about here:

https://rennlist.com/forums/996-turb...l#post14275558

http://rmsothebys.com/am17/amelia-is...riolet/1701948

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