new!!! CLASSIC SHIFT KNOB - Delrin/Aluminum
06-09-2015, 03:42 PM
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That is the case with the extended base, but the Classic Shift **** is offered in standard length as well (OEM height).
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06-09-2015, 05:13 PM
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I'm not sure that extended shifter is going to be closer to the steering wheel in every gear as compared to the OEM shifter.
Additionally, I don't see any advantage to the shifter being closer to the steering wheel. Certainly in street driving I don't see "closer" as any kind of measurable advantage, especially if max. performing the car in a straight line, as there isn't any reason in this case to remove your hand from the stick and return it to the steering wheel as you blast through the gears. Even on the track, I can't imagine there being any measurable lap time difference between two shifters that are even 3-4 inches apart from each other in distance from the steering wheel, given the multitude of other variables that impact lap times.
For reference, here are the closest point distances between my steering wheel and my shifter in each gear.
B&M shifter/OEM shift ****/340mm diameter steering wheel.
1 - 7 1/2"
2 - 7"
3 - 8"
4- 7 5/8"
5 - 8 1/2"
6 - 8 1/4"
Additionally, I don't see any advantage to the shifter being closer to the steering wheel. Certainly in street driving I don't see "closer" as any kind of measurable advantage, especially if max. performing the car in a straight line, as there isn't any reason in this case to remove your hand from the stick and return it to the steering wheel as you blast through the gears. Even on the track, I can't imagine there being any measurable lap time difference between two shifters that are even 3-4 inches apart from each other in distance from the steering wheel, given the multitude of other variables that impact lap times.
For reference, here are the closest point distances between my steering wheel and my shifter in each gear.
B&M shifter/OEM shift ****/340mm diameter steering wheel.
1 - 7 1/2"
2 - 7"
3 - 8"
4- 7 5/8"
5 - 8 1/2"
6 - 8 1/4"
06-09-2015, 06:49 PM
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For street use, nah...
06-09-2015, 07:18 PM
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Why?
06-09-2015, 07:43 PM
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The comfort thing...maybe. But I think that's a "it depends" assessment. The driver in this video took his right hand off the steering wheel at least 29 times with his hand below the three o'clock position. That is, the steering wheel was turned to the right, dropping his right hand below three o'clock when he reached for the shifter. That places his hand essentially horizontal to the shifter, where the geometry advantage in terms of the distance between his shifter height and a lower shifter height is in the "who cares" range.
Porsche 911 track racing - YouTube
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Porsche 911 track racing - YouTube
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06-09-2015, 07:51 PM
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I know that. That's why I said that IMO there would be little to no difference between his riser shifter and a normal shifter on those shifts when his hand was below 3 o'clock.
06-11-2015, 11:40 AM
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I'll begin by saying that everything ultimately comes down to personal preference. And as such, each individual is entitled to their own opinion.
As an aftermarket parts developer, I bring forth my own vision of how and what parts to develop in order to extract the most performance from the car, with the presumption that those upgrades will resonate with others within the community. All the upgrades I have innovated have their roots in motorsports, with the goal of delivering similar performance for track and street enthusiasts.
Shifter heights on the 911s have been increasingly risen throughout the generations, with each subsequent model mounting the shifter up higher than the one before. This, of course, culminates with paddle shifters mounted on the steering wheel. For ultimate car control, it's important to always have both hands on the steering wheel, and so you never want your hands to stray far from the steering wheel in the event you need to make a correction or avoid another car, obstacle, catch the rear end, etc. This becomes increasingly important the harder you push your car on a road course.
So whether you track your car, or you just feel that having the shifter mounted up higher is more comfortable for you, I'm glad I can provide that solution for you and your Porsche.
As an aftermarket parts developer, I bring forth my own vision of how and what parts to develop in order to extract the most performance from the car, with the presumption that those upgrades will resonate with others within the community. All the upgrades I have innovated have their roots in motorsports, with the goal of delivering similar performance for track and street enthusiasts.
Shifter heights on the 911s have been increasingly risen throughout the generations, with each subsequent model mounting the shifter up higher than the one before. This, of course, culminates with paddle shifters mounted on the steering wheel. For ultimate car control, it's important to always have both hands on the steering wheel, and so you never want your hands to stray far from the steering wheel in the event you need to make a correction or avoid another car, obstacle, catch the rear end, etc. This becomes increasingly important the harder you push your car on a road course.
So whether you track your car, or you just feel that having the shifter mounted up higher is more comfortable for you, I'm glad I can provide that solution for you and your Porsche.
06-11-2015, 11:48 AM
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I'll begin by saying that everything ultimately comes down to personal preference. And as such, each individual is entitled to their own opinion.
As an aftermarket parts developer, I bring forth my own vision of how and what parts to develop in order to extract the most performance from the car, with the presumption that those upgrades will resonate with others within the community. All the upgrades I have innovated have their roots in motorsports, with the goal of delivering similar performance for track and street enthusiasts.
Shifter heights on the 911s have been increasingly risen throughout the generations, with each subsequent model mounting the shifter up higher than the one before. This, of course, culminates with paddle shifters mounted on the steering wheel. For ultimate car control, it's important to always have both hands on the steering wheel, and so you never want your hands to stray far from the steering wheel in the event you need to make a correction or avoid another car, obstacle, catch the rear end, etc. This becomes increasingly important the harder you push your car on a road course.
So whether you track your car, or you just feel that having the shifter mounted up higher is more comfortable for you, I'm glad I can provide that solution for you and your Porsche.
As an aftermarket parts developer, I bring forth my own vision of how and what parts to develop in order to extract the most performance from the car, with the presumption that those upgrades will resonate with others within the community. All the upgrades I have innovated have their roots in motorsports, with the goal of delivering similar performance for track and street enthusiasts.
Shifter heights on the 911s have been increasingly risen throughout the generations, with each subsequent model mounting the shifter up higher than the one before. This, of course, culminates with paddle shifters mounted on the steering wheel. For ultimate car control, it's important to always have both hands on the steering wheel, and so you never want your hands to stray far from the steering wheel in the event you need to make a correction or avoid another car, obstacle, catch the rear end, etc. This becomes increasingly important the harder you push your car on a road course.
So whether you track your car, or you just feel that having the shifter mounted up higher is more comfortable for you, I'm glad I can provide that solution for you and your Porsche.